EQNext Discussion

[Ellouelle]

i like all the nerds over here getting really mad over how they have cartoony graphics. like, really? you all realize that that's a logistics thing, right? don't be retarded. they're cartoony because it's easy to make a decent art direction with cartoons without having ridiculous graphical requirements that only the most dedicated players will be able to meet up with.

I don't think that the art looks like wow at all. If anything you could make a more valid comparison to say that the graphics look like borderlands minus the cel shading.

if u want to make a complaint about EQN, make it one that isn't completely retarded. tony the tiger was retarded i agree but honestly it's not game breaking to me.

[t0lkien]

Originally Posted by Ellouelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i like all the nerds over here getting really mad over how they have cartoony graphics. like, really? you all realize that that's a logistics thing, right? don't be retarded.

Stopped reading here, because no offense, but it shows you have no idea what you're talking about, and you're aggressive about it to boot.

[Nogdar]

Major disappointment for me too even though this is really alpha stuff and much is going to change.

The world looks superb, and the editor Landmark thing is absolutely great for the minecraft crowd/creative players - and thank god it's separate from the real game because frankly the Foundry of Neverwinter, mehhh.

Graphics are way too cartoonish, the human looks cool but the tiger is absolutely catastrophic and the armors are 200% WoW even worse. For a game trying to be innovating and surprising, the models and armors sure aren't -_-

Combat while surely in it's infant stages look absolutely catastrophic as well, I hope that tiger was lvl 60 in a lvl 5 area because it's plain stupid as it is there...

Not a fan at all of the no levels/classes idea either. It's not a bad idea, but doesn't fit EQ imo. If they wanted to go that route, should've done UO next, not EQ next.

And I'm sorry but this business model doesn't cut it for me, as it didn't in Neverwinter - I hated it (17 different currencies and stuff so annoying). It's the same story here, games with good background (EQ/D&D) but totally ruined with this modern F2P+cash shop business model just bringing in stupid concepts for you to dish out money and often too close to P2W elements.

Like I said at the beginning of my post, we're merely in alpha and much of what we dislike from what we saw might change, but from what I saw there I think I'd skip the game entirely. I think the game has potential, but targetting a niche market, not the mass-market - i.e. Minecraft players longing for their game with WoW graphics? Dunno..

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Ellouelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i like all the nerds over here getting really mad over how they have cartoony graphics. like, really? you all realize that that's a logistics thing, right? don't be retarded. they're cartoony because it's easy to make a decent art direction with cartoons without having ridiculous graphical requirements that only the most dedicated players will be able to meet up with.

I don't think that the art looks like wow at all. If anything you could make a more valid comparison to say that the graphics look like borderlands minus the cel shading.

if u want to make a complaint about EQN, make it one that isn't completely retarded. tony the tiger was retarded i agree but honestly it's not game breaking to me.

You realize that some of us don't like games that look terrible, like EQnext?
I mean, sure it could be a great game despite its terrible graphics, not likely though.
The clips of combat they showed yesterday all but guarantee this is just another game using another game's title to milk retards like you for money. Go ahead and buy this shitty pos game, I wont cause it blows donkey cocks just like WoW, LoL, Vanguard, Rift, etc etc.

All these developers do is make cheap shitty games designed to make the most profit, so go ahead and buy it. You're just doing exactly what they want, so instead of EQnext folding completely because its a shitty game, they will continue making bad games because people like you buy them!

[Ellouelle]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stopped reading here, because no offense, but it shows you have no idea what you're talking about, and you're aggressive about it to boot.

All that I'm saying is that you have two options:

You can take a stylistic approach that may or may not appeal to everyone, and it will generally be enough that you can suspend your disbelief and be okay with it. (see: world of warcraft)

OR

You can try to be realistic while simultaneously having low graphics, and look like horse shit that appeals to literally no one. (do you really want star wars art direction over wow art direction? really)

Most people here don't seem to get that.

[raff01]

Looked plain amazing. Its everything I always wanted for a game. If they keep their promises as for landmarks and destructibility and dynamic questing, it might be the best MMO ever.
I'm very excited, screw the cynical haters.

[myriverse]

I love the "cartoony" complaints, too.

Original EQ = Cartoony. You were just willing enough to suspend disbelief to ignore it. I mean seriously, Ogres looked like Fred freaking Flintstone and Peter Griffin had a love child. Cartoony!

[Nogdar]

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love the "cartoony" complaints, too.

Original EQ = Cartoony. You were just willing enough to suspend disbelief to ignore it. I mean seriously, Ogres looked like Fred freaking Flintstone and Peter Griffin had a love child. Cartoony!

While I'll agree ogres are cartoonish, the world and models overall certainly aren't anywhere near as cartoonish as Tony the Whirlwinding Tiger and stuff - or you haven't been spending enough time in befallen, najena or guk... I think EQ has a touch of diabloish atmosphere in some dungeons that I enjoy, and that you won't find in WoW or EQ Next.

Also to answer a general comment I read a lot, I personally didn't expect EQNext to be EQ1 redone, it's stupid to believe it wouldve been as, as has been said, we are a tiny minority here. It doesn't change that the demos and what they were showing were disappointing to my taste and the game so far doesn't look like something I'll want to play - it's all I said^^

[raff01]

Yeah I love how EQ die hard fans turn things around their way :
When someone says EQ has very poor graphics : "its not about graphics its about the gameplay and the lore"
When they see EQ next : " WTF those graphics are way too cartoonish, I'll never play that game !!"

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love the "cartoony" complaints, too.

Original EQ = Cartoony. You were just willing enough to suspend disbelief to ignore it. I mean seriously, Ogres looked like Fred freaking Flintstone and Peter Griffin had a love child. Cartoony!

Whats your point? Ogres are supposed to be blundering, fat, and dumb. Next you're going to tell me that gnomes are too small, and barbarians are too tall?

Originally Posted by raff01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I love how EQ die hard fans turn things around their way :
When someone says EQ has very poor graphics : "its not about graphics its about the gameplay and the lore"
When they see EQ next : " WTF those graphics are way too cartoonish, I'll never play that game !!"

By cartoony I think people mean that it just looks like WoW-type char models, which were terrible. They literally looked like something you would see on cartoon network, where as EQ was a realistic fantasy world where players actually looked like they were supposed to. Original EQ player character models were amazing, they were the best, despite being less than refined. The thing is here they are trying to use the Everquest name and turn it into something that it never was, never will be. I think EQ's graphics/world are amazing and there simply won't ever be a game as good as EQ.



Face it kids, we lived through the golden age of MMORPG's. There won't ever be another everquest, or another game as good as it. EQ 2 proved that, and last night's reveal of EQnext looks worse than eq2 did.