14 Children and Teacher Killed in Texas Elementary School Shooting

[Duik]

Never mind renthalis. It happened there. Its all good mate.
Also, learn sarcasm.
Also also, boarders living in ya house can be very dangerous. Like a hitchhiker for ya house.
You funny.

[Gustoo]

I do regret what I said earlier though,

Loramin has contributed in actual ways to the p99 community, so it was wrong of me to say he took the worst poster title away from Horza.

I feel like whatever demon was making Jibartik act erratic found its way over to Loramin tho. Prayers for you, guy.

Someone send me a PM when an argument approaching rational is put forward to justify abandoning a constitutional right or really any right because the right is abused by deranged individuals and the authorities and our society fail utterly to compensate.

[Elizondo]

same morons that want to take your guns away want to defund the police

groomers so low iq

[unsunghero]

From first hit on Google. Has this already been posted?

“Average (Mean) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):

Norway — 1.888
Serbia — 0.381
France — 0.347
Macedonia — 0.337
Albania — 0.206
Slovakia — 0.185
Switzerland — 0.142
Finland — 0.132
Belgium — 0.128
Czech Republic — 0.123
United States — 0.089
Austria — 0.068
Netherlands — 0.051
Canada — 0.032
England — 0.027
Germany — 0.023
Russia — 0.012
Italy — 0.009

In addition, a 2018 CRPC study ranked the U.S. at number sixty-four in the world in terms of mass shooting rates per capita”

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ngs-by-country

[unsunghero]

Let’s check just gun violence per country per capita

Surely the US has to be leading there, right, with all our evil guns everywhere?

“Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019

El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41”

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ths-by-country


Hey, where’s the USA??!

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let’s check just gun violence per country per capita

Surely the US has to be leading there, right, with all our evil guns everywhere?

“Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019

El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41”

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ths-by-country


Hey, where’s the USA??!

This site also provides data about suicide rates which is why I mentioned it is literally the only area that gun policy would be likely to have a statistically significant increase in safety, because of the nature of suicide and the unique convenience of a gun in hand.

But evangelical true believer religious persons like Horza and Loramin can't be fooled by reality when it comes to their belief in a fear of guns. It's part of their identity and it would take something directly impacting their personal lives to have any chance of redirecting their fervent passions. Stats like you posted above are easy to find, just like basic stats (not robust popular studies) about the impact of total disarmament in England.

It's a nuanced discussion that is not easy to have when everyone has their eyes clenched closed and their fists are flailing.

In the USA a popular but misleading stat to say is something like "we have 10 school shootings a year!!!" but 10/10 of those are a gun going off in a school parking lot. The exceptions are cases like the one that started this thread, that we all talk about. It's not like there are mass murders that go under the radar. This is bread and butter for the news outlets and not a single event of this nature goes unreported. So data, even the link above can certainly be collected in a way to make the statistics less straight forward than they seem. This is a basic life skill that seems commonly swept aside when it comes to these kinds of arguments because everyone just starts throwing flak around to dodge actual discussions.

The reality is that democrat and republican leadership don't give a shit about public safety, not about school safety and not about childrens safety, especially not about public school children. We had robust opportunities to make policy in one way or another when both parties captured the presidency and both houses and both parties did absolutely nothing with it. Status quo is the goal. Your kids losing your lives are just collateral damage, and they don't give a fuck. They're happy to see you abandon your rights though, so maybe if you do that you can appease your overlords.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reality is that democrat and republican leadership don't give a shit about public safety, not about school safety and not about childrens safety, especially not about public school children. We had robust opportunities to make policy in one way or another when both parties captured the presidency and both houses and both parties did absolutely nothing with it. Status quo is the goal. Your kids losing your lives are just collateral damage, and they don't give a fuck. They're happy to see you abandon your rights though, so maybe if you do that you can appease your overlords.

Precisely. If their goal is to disarm an increasingly agitated populace, all they have to do is nothing at the rate things are going

That or it all goes the other way and armed insurrection breaks out, but they've scored the lines on that one and the breaks will go as expected: political party loyalty (just look at this forum) and/or race. Plus, they don't have to worry about their safety all that much, that's what cops and militaries are for, to protect people like them

No war but the class war

[Duik]

Its about shooting children.
No wonder you cant fix this shit.

Statement: Thur wurnt tur turk yur gurns.
This is a good start, at least its aboit guns.
Reality: Some do, most thinking people realise that aint never gonna happen. Cuz reasons. Usa is different from you.
One reason is the perseved We needem cuz we fink everyone is out to get us OR is simply a paste eating groomer (that one's for you Elizondope) that wurnts tur turk ur gurnz.
At least this is about guns.
Look over there, it happened in anuva cunt tree. So its all good.
Again, a lil bit about actual guns and lends support to KEEPING GUNS FREE TO ROAM in the US. (*if yas are allpwed to usem*)
Abortion bad look over there turtle eggs are babies too. Roe vs Wade yadda yadda deflect paste eater godless groomer.
Close! But no cigar.
Guns. Shooting. How about nailing down the ability to use yur gurnz within the existing rules. Absolving the po po of any responsibility of you choose to go in. There, thats a start. Also, shoulda said there was a school desk (property) in danger of being shot. Cops woulda stormed right in. Theoretically.
Now ya just geten silly mate.
Or am I?

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, shoulda said there was a school desk (property) in danger of being shot. Cops woulda stormed right in. Theoretically

Or next school shooting to get a better police response instead of calling it a school shooting say that there’s some conservative parents who are upset about what the teachers are discussing with their kids

Police will swarm that shit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its about shooting children.
No wonder you cant fix this shit.

Statement: Thur wurnt tur turk yur gurns.
This is a good start, at least its aboit guns.
Reality: Some do, most thinking people realise that aint never gonna happen. Cuz reasons. Usa is different from you.
One reason is the perseved We needem cuz we fink everyone is out to get us OR is simply a paste eating groomer (that one's for you Elizondope) that wurnts tur turk ur gurnz.
At least this is about guns.
Look over there, it happened in anuva cunt tree. So its all good.
Again, a lil bit about actual guns and lends support to KEEPING GUNS FREE TO ROAM in the US. (*if yas are allpwed to usem*)
Abortion bad look over there turtle eggs are babies too. Roe vs Wade yadda yadda deflect paste eater godless groomer.
Close! But no cigar.
Guns. Shooting. How about nailing down the ability to use yur gurnz within the existing rules. Absolving the po po of any responsibility of you choose to go in. There, thats a start. Also, shoulda said there was a school desk (property) in danger of being shot. Cops woulda stormed right in. Theoretically.
Now ya just geten silly mate.
Or am I?