Raiding Guild Behavior

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Couple of things you seem confused about:

1) There's no actual PVP on Red. Because...
2) Nobody plays on Red. That's why the population is consistently less than 10% of Blue. Except for when somebody tries to move their guild over and then...
3) Any up and coming guild gets griefed off the server. By griefed I mean things like OOR harassment (training, KSing, dispelling mobs). Not PVP (see #1).



Is this even in English? Learn sentence structure... maybe even paragraphs. Come back when you can write something legible.

Auto correct due to mobile kicked in twice and instead of figuring it out you deflect like a little bitch? I thought you were better than that.


All of those suspensions minus one for awakened have been due to petitions between A/A. So who exactly are they shitting on and how are they getting away with it? If A/A are so obviously cheating then why aren't the other entities in there proving it? Instead little children like yourself, jump onto the Forums and bitch like the reason for the suspension was somehow relevant to, or affected, you in any way. No one cares what you want the raid scene to be like, even the Guides have said if you don't like it, the door is over there.


Is that better for you? Basically if you don't like it now l, no one is making you stay on this server. But even the GMs have said shit isnt changing, just because people like you don't want to commit the time that others are willing to commit.

All these threads do is reinforce that a majority of those who post don't actually comprehend what the raid scene is like. As proven by idiots like you still bitching about TMO while never even raiding since velious launched. Maybe when you figure out that your opinion is irrelevant, like you in general, you can move on past an emulated EQ server and have a meaningful life.

Originally Posted by Munkh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess I suck because I don't have any EQ friends...... HAHA

No. My play time is so irregular that I need to make more EQ friends as my toons are getting close to levels and can have their epics.

This is another example of someone posting their opinion who has no actual grasp as to what they are talking about. You realize that during live a majority of players did not have their epics right? The fact that you have the ability to get an epic so easily on this server is an example of hem catering to casuals coupled with just how long the server has been going.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of those suspensions minus one for awakened have been due to petitions between A/A.

That's irrelevant. Suspensions are proof enough that they're doing something wrong.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So who exactly are they shitting on and how are they getting away with it?

What you see them suspended for is only a fraction of the offenses. Some get decided through concessions. Others go ignored. Some are determined to be minor to Sirken so there's no punishment, but they're not excusable to everybody.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If A/A are so obviously cheating then why aren't the other entities in there proving it?

Because we CHOOSE not to raid here. We don't wish to deal with the train wars or the escalating cheating (both A/A using screen tearing for faster running) or life crippling strategies (CotH ducking, anyone?).

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one cares what you want the raid scene to be like

That's why these kind of posts have been popping up since the TMO days, right?

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

even the Guides have said if you don't like it, the door is over there.

Is that better for you? Basically if you don't like it now l, no one is making you stay on this server. But even the GMs have said shit isnt changing, just because people like you don't want to commit the time that others are willing to commit.

I've played here a lot longer than you. You don't get to dictate when I do or do not quit playing. Changes have been made before. Either A/A is going to get on board or play nice or they will see themselves permanently raid suspended for the benefit of the rest of the server.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All these threads do is reinforce that a majority of those who post don't actually comprehend what the raid scene is like. As proven by idiots like you still bitching about TMO while never even raiding since velious launched. Maybe when you figure out that your opinion is irrelevant, like you in general, you can move on past an emulated EQ server and have a meaningful life.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Auto correct due to mobile kicked in twice and instead of figuring it out you deflect like a little bitch? I thought you were better than that.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Instead little children like yourself, jump onto the Forums and bitch like the reason for the suspension was somehow relevant to, or affected, you in any way.

I don't think you're an intelligent person. Statements like these just paint you as some sort of mongoloid and help to reinforce that you're not very smart. I am going to ignore them in the future. If you continue, I'm going to ignore you all together.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's irrelevant. Suspensions are proof enough that they're doing something wrong.



What you see them suspended for is only a fraction of the offenses. Some get decided through concessions. Others go ignored. Some are determined to be minor to Sirken so there's no punishment, but they're not excusable to everybody.



Because we CHOOSE not to raid here. We don't wish to deal with the train wars or the escalating cheating (both A/A using screen tearing for faster running) or life crippling strategies (CotH ducking, anyone?).



That's why these kind of posts have been popping up since the TMO days, right?



I've played here a lot longer than you. You don't get to dictate when I do or do not quit playing. Changes have been made before. Either A/A is going to get on board or play nice or they will see themselves permanently raid suspended for the benefit of the rest of the server.





I don't think you're an intelligent person. Statements like these just paint you as some sort of mongoloid and help to reinforce that you're not very smart. I am going to ignore them in the future. If you continue, I'm going to ignore you all together.

This all just reeks of entitlement and deflection. No one cares why you don't choose to raid on this server anymore. Just like how no one would care if you decided to raid here. the point is you have admitted you don't and haven't for over a year. Your opinion regarding the raid scene is uninformed due to you not being a part of what you're complaining about.

How do you know that what they are suspended for is just a fraction? Do you have special access to the petitions forums? Do you routinely go and ask every other guild on the server how has A/A touched you this wee? you haven't said a single thing that would demonstrate some intimate knowledge with the raid scene, in fact you have admitted to the opposite. Basically you are running on pure assumption and opinion. You assume there are rule infractions happening on every encounter, you think that somehow the top 2 guilds are able to physically restrain other guilds from getting FTEs. Neither of those things are true. in fact if you weren't a complete tool you may have noticed that the dates for the 2 current infractions were a month apart. Which is further proof that in fact things aren't even close to as bad as you make them out to be. A/A is not shitting on any of the more casual raiding guilds, because 90% of the time those other guilds aren't even there.

Who is the we that chooses not to raid here? and how are they in any way informed enough to comment on the raid scene if they aren't even willing to attempt to participate in it?

I don't see where i told you to quit, i told you what Sirken has said. If you don't like it the door is that way. Changes have been made and the people who make those changes have said that you and those like you begging for a rotation are shit out of luck. A/A have no reason to create or agree to a rotation right now because the guilds people like you represent are obviously not a threat to them keeping a monopoly on raid targets.

The reason you don't think I am very intelligent is because i resorted to dumbing down what i wrote so that you could actually comprehend it. At least you didn't deflect like a little bitch as much this time.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's defending his lifestyle. Just like Erati was doing on Page 3 and 4. They know they're about to lose it, so they're holding on as hard as they can.

How are we going to "lose it"? Are you somehow taking over hosting of the server so that you can make your own rules? There have never been guide enforced rotations on this server so why would they start now? The "rotations" we had were due to player made agreements and they were then destroyed because of the very players that pushed for rotations.

Its not a problem that everyone has an opinion, the problem comes when the uninformed, like you, feel the need to express them

Originally Posted by Kushie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maner is living in a fantasy world lol

Me stating the obvious doesn't make it a fantasy world. The only fantasy being expressed on these forums is you, thinking what you say is in any way relevant, or even close to be considered trolling. Should go look up some political stories on social media, more specifically anything involving the BLM movement if you want to see what trolling is.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason you don't think I am very intelligent is because i resorted to dumbing down what i wrote so that you could actually comprehend it.

No, the reason I think you're dumb is because you're putting all of this effort into logical fallacies that in no way address the substance of this post. You can belittle me and demean me all you please. It just proves you don't have an argument. You can chase straw men and red herrings all day and get nowhere. I don't care. It just makes you simple and opinionated. Not right. If you need any examples, just read any of that rambling idiocy in your post I partially quoted. Maybe then at least one person will have read it all...

You can keep lashing out at me, but remember one thing: I'm not raiding tonight because I choose not to. You're not raiding tonight because your guild leadership is shit and got you raid suspended.

Again.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

None of the stuff you guys are talking about is the point. The point is Rogean clearly stated if the raid guilds didn't stop acting like children they were going to remove raid content from the game. It's been over 3 years since he made that statement and nothing has changed. Where is the follow up to his promise? Let's make some actual changes and FORCE the toxic players to change their ways or get lost.

That's not what he said at all, though. He threatened to release Velious without content. Velious is already released, so the threat is over. He never said he would remove it.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

None of the stuff you guys are talking about is the point. The point is Rogean clearly stated if the raid guilds didn't stop acting like children they were going to remove raid content from the game. It's been over 3 years since he made that statement and nothing has changed. Where is the follow up to his promise? Let's make some actual changes and FORCE the toxic players to change their ways or get lost.

It's still pretty ugly, but back in the day it was far worse. Before Rogean posted that and temporarily banned all raiding and then created the class C/R divide. Before Zeelot had his meltdown, and the TMO guildtag disappeared from the server then was necro'd back briefly before disappearing again (forever? let's hope). Shitty raid scene wasn't just shitty back then, it was terrible awful horrific miserable lord of the flies shitty.

Lotta people here are ignoring that.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's still pretty ugly, but back in the day it was far worse. Before Rogean posted that and temporarily banned all raiding and then created the class C/R divide. Before Zeelot had his meltdown, and the TMO guildtag disappeared from the server then was necro'd back briefly before disappearing again (forever? let's hope). Shitty raid scene wasn't just shitty back then, it was terrible awful horrific miserable lord of the flies shitty.

Lotta people here are ignoring that.

Good words palaman!

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's still pretty ugly, but back in the day it was far worse. Before Rogean posted that and temporarily banned all raiding and then created the class C/R divide. Before Zeelot had his meltdown, and the TMO guildtag disappeared from the server then was necro'd back briefly before disappearing again (forever? let's hope). Shitty raid scene wasn't just shitty back then, it was terrible awful horrific miserable lord of the flies shitty.

Lotta people here are ignoring that.

Good words palaman!

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by Velius2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rumors bound that some amazing P99'rs gonna start a guild on Agnarr. Stay tuned if you get sick of all your p99 drama.

RUSTY WEAPONS AND BRONZE ARMOR HERE WE COME

I would love to see a p99 guild consisting of members with the longest of neckbeards go against the "hardcore" TLP server guilds. As much as the A/A/Rustle/Rampage/TMO/FE/IB drama still exists today, I think there would be unity in competing against the already established guilds on TLP. Some of those guilds go pretty hard, but it's child's play compared to the neckbearding that happens in this joint. A disruption in their monopoly excites me.

[Comoc1]

Originally Posted by Bigmoneybabybaby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look. Clearly what needs to happen now is A/A stop petitioning each other for silly stuff. The real enemy is these casual scumbags that want welfare pixels. So A/A become friends and keep these dainty snowflakes cry babies away from the good pixels. The more loot that goes to A/A the better. If FoH etc etc name your casual shit guild here doesn't get loot then I'm happy. If Aftermath gets another Vulak dagger fantastic. At least some shit guild that puts in no work on the line didn't get it = happy day.

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