Rotation RNF Thread

[Maner]

Originally Posted by kagrobb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We had to drop the pull and let dain reset due to the pull being less than desirable. We cleared aggro and let him reset. He was walking back from our camp to the throne room and unaggroed. This is a dropped pull and not a kite.

At no point are we under the number of people in raid to kill dain, there was no mass migration from thurg to tov and back to thurg. Painting a picture of all of us running out and porting/gating to tov is absurd and misleading.

What happened is raid force in place, pull team in place, tanks in place, speed bumps in place, healers in place .. pull not good so it is called to drop in multiple ways including /ooc.. pull is dropped and all aggro is cleared /q zone out ect. mob resets ... or tries to but is spam hailed to keep locked in place by a unguilded Rustle member. Rustle still did not have a raid force logged in or zoned in at this point or any point of the encounter.

You understand the difference between a kite/stall and a dropped pull right?

Pre footrace rules in TOV if you dropped a pull it was FFA and nabbed quick, at kite was a mob being pulled away from your raid force for x number of seconds, he only moved towards us when aggroed and never away.

The point all of awakened members are trying to make is we had a kill force in place and had to drop the pull to get it right not drop the pull to get more people there. you own logs will show who was there and was it doable.

Having a kill force in place and one ready to log/zone in is a world of difference. We lose mobs all the time due to people no being logged in and also concede mobs that are kited by us when we are pulling regardless of the other guy having a kill force in place or not.

Not understanding that we are pulling to the lower zoneline versus the upper zoneline to reduce the number of "mysterious" trains is not an excuse to attempt to mislead staff/public on the actual happenings.

It is the same reason we pull to LTK for most of the mobs in TOV versus pulling to the entrance. No weird trains no easy snipes no /ooc of concede you killed my cleric and no hurt feelings about eating the dragon's AE's.

In reality you guys really just pointed out how you were stalling the NPC by hailing him in the tube.

Lmfao an "undesirable pull" meaning you had him in camp, vulak spawned and you spammed for everyone to camp out. That is why people like happyhealz ended up getting a dain FTE. That is obviously a stall. You pulled with the intention to kill, didn't kill because a better target spawned and you didn't want to be locked into dain. Your pull made it impossible for the other force to pick it up and awakened lost the race for vulak before he even reset. That is an obvious stall, playing under the "spirit" of the rules as awakens calls it, would have been killing dain and not mass camping to drop FTE for a shot at vulak.

You dropped the pull to be eligible for vulak, stop spinning shit when you're obviously unskilled at it.

[icedwards]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lmfao an "undesirable pull" meaning you had him in camp, vulak spawned and you spammed for everyone to camp out. That is why people like happyhealz ended up getting a dain FTE. That is obviously a stall. You pulled with the intention to kill, didn't kill because a better target spawned and you didn't want to be locked into dain. Your pull made it impossible for the other force to pick it up and awakened lost the race for vulak before he even reset. That is an obvious stall, playing under the "spirit" of the rules as awakens calls it, would have been killing dain and not mass camping to drop FTE for a shot at vulak.

You dropped the pull to be eligible for vulak, stop spinning shit when you're obviously unskilled at it.

You realize this argument falls apart when Dain was back in his throne room when Eratani got his 2nd FTE, right? Rustle had all the time in the world to pull and chose not to.

[Maner]

So you aren't sayin that your racers weren't off the line when the other dragon spawned, you're just saying it was ok because aftermath was off the line too?

You pulled dain into camp then vulak spawned so you dropped and had people camp out in order to race for vulak. How many other FTE messaged went out while people were camping? That is clearly a stall.

Not sure how you can "be in the right" rustle had FTE on aary didnt they?

I also heard about a magi up in hate, where a group of 20+ awakened rolled over a group for a potential Mage staff? A group that single pulled it and so the awakened raid ran up and zerged it in their camp...

[Breaken]

So you aren't sayin that your racers weren't off the line when the other dragon spawned, you're just saying it was ok because aftermath was off the line too?

I am absolutely saying we were not off the line. Aftermath was, and it was proven in their own fraps. Hence the "misidentification". The person(s) assumed off the line early were all Aftermath.

You pulled dain into camp then vulak spawned so you dropped and had people camp out in order to race for vulak. How many other FTE messaged went out while people were camping? That is clearly a stall.

Dropping a pull is not stalling. If we were to ping pong him, or spam hail him (like others), or just intentionally pull/drop/pull/drop, sure. That seems like a stall. Dropping a pull and letting it reset? Sorry, maybe our definitions are different.

Not sure how you can "be in the right" rustle had FTE on aary didnt they?

No, they did not.

[fan D]

Ecuse me can Awakened plz take a poll to see if they agree with Breakens points or not ?

[fan D]

btw, does anyone find raiding fun anymore? Anyones who has done ToV and all the Velious raid content for more than a couple months straight should find it unbearable and incredibly boring, if you still enjoy killing the same dragons you got a real sickness

you don't even need the items, it's a PvE server

plz go do something with ur lives

[Expediency]

Originally Posted by fan D [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

btw, does anyone find raiding fun anymore? Anyones who has done ToV and all the Velious raid content for more than a couple months straight should find it unbearable and incredibly boring, if you still enjoy killing the same dragons you got a real sickness

you don't even need the items, it's a PvE server

plz go do something with ur lives

We still have a good time raiding. CSG didnt gorge ourselves on all the content in the first six months, we still have mobs that we havent killed yet. Casual is the way to go. Server isnt going anywhere.

[gummab]

Originally Posted by fan D [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

btw, does anyone find raiding fun anymore? Anyones who has done ToV and all the Velious raid content for more than a couple months straight should find it unbearable and incredibly boring, if you still enjoy killing the same dragons you got a real sickness

you don't even need the items, it's a PvE server

plz go do something with ur lives

I find raiding with my guild buddies a good laugh loot is and always will be secondary in my eyes.

[Crom]

Originally Posted by gummab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find raiding with my guild buddies a good laugh loot is and always will be secondary in my eyes.

/This x100

[skarlorn]

i will cut my throat before i let azure guard kill anything relevant