If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[bman8810]

Originally Posted by Polixenes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh drat, you've gone all serious on me.

I used "P(Life evolving on Earth) = 1" because I'm using present tense. It happened and it's still happening. I'm not sure if you were disagreeing with me or not.

I'm aware someone concocted a formula involving P(planet being in the right location at the right time) etc., if that's what you are referring to, but that's just made up and so full of estimates the resulting answer is still unknown. For all we know, the spontaneous development of life, given certain common chemistry/environmental conditions, is inevitable.

But the problem with your logic is that "P(Life evolving on Earth) = 1" is only correct if a higher power didn't create life on Earth (I'm not arguing against evolution here btw, just the spontaneous generation of life.) As such, seeing as how we can't know the second part for sure we can't be certain about the first one, can we?

As far as knowing whether the development of life is inevitable... I'm pretty sure you are serious and the answer is no. Life is not inevitable, at least not so far as life forms such as ourselves. It takes a very specific set of conditions (far from "common chemistry/environmental conditions") in order for life to occur. Is it possible? Surely. Is it the way things happened? Who knows, I certainly don't know for sure.

I feel like the "life is not inevitable" thing is slightly misleading. It's kind of like the monkeys writing Shakespeare thing; i.e. given enough time anything is possible.

As far as agreeing/disagreeing? I'm just trying to point out the futility in arguing for one side or the other.

[brglcanan24]

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[deezy]

Chtulu is among the smartest of all the doorknobs I've met or seen. He is at least sentient, more than you can say about most doorknobs.

[bman8810]

P.S. Still waiting on the Skynet to do its thang.

[Nug]

Pretending you believe in God has some merit. There's a lot of power in it, for sure.

Actually believing in it? Yeah, you have to be pretty stupid. Then again, a lot of people are conservative as opposed to liberal. I guess it's just expected that people will make dumb decisions in life.

[bman8810]

Originally Posted by Nug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretending you believe in God has some merit. There's a lot of power in it, for sure.

Actually believing in it? Yeah, you have to be pretty stupid. Then again, a lot of people are conservative as opposed to liberal. I guess it's just expected that people will make dumb decisions in life.

Because being liberal is so clearly better than being conservative.

Those of us that aren't dumb don't choose a political side. We vote based on opinion and not by party lines.

[Beauregard]

Originally Posted by bman8810 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because being liberal is so clearly better than being conservative.

Those of us that are dumb don't choose a political side.

Fixed.

The sides are not equal and not choosing a side doesn't put you at some intellectual high-ground over the rest of us. Moderates are the hipsters of politics.

[JayDee]

You better stay low, Fore you get a Halo

[JayDee]

TTT to torture more people

[Turtles]

Anyone that espouses liberalism or conservatism as "better" is a moron.

Anyone that believes they know with even a shred of certainty whether or not God exists is a moron.

If you're going to express a belief along those lines, save yourself time and get back to telling your co-workers at Pizza Hut about why you should run for President.