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02-01-2011, 04:59 PM
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how about this verse justifying slavery:
Exodus 21:20-21 "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money. they love gays too: Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." preaching lies that must be believed as well: 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 Therefore God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false, so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. how can anyone take this seriously beyond the age of 12 seriously | ||
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02-01-2011, 05:00 PM
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02-01-2011, 05:06 PM
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02-01-2011, 05:08 PM
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Let me try your logic here. You live on one of the coasts. You vote democrat. You think you are far more intelligent than you really are. You hang out with hipsters who are probably much younger than you, but accept you as a novelty. You feel that your liberal social views make you seem "cooler" to the crowd you hang with. You cannot take to side of what is right for fear of being unpopular. You are probably taking some sort of government hand-out. You work a very low-paying job, but one that gives you plenty of free time to smoke pot, hang out with friends at the coffee shop, and read really bad Russian literature. You refuse to do anything that is considered mainstream because you want to come off as a rebel. You talk about diversity but have no friends of color. You are an expert on other peoples cultures. You like Apple products and anything vintage. You pretend to know what is best for poor people. And to make an ever-growing list shorter...you hate God for not making you a woman. Did I get it right? Maybe 80-85%...lol. | |||
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#615
02-01-2011, 05:10 PM
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Rocketmoose, just because something hasn't been explained yet doesn't mean it can't be explained. How long have we gone not able to explain how a bird flies? If you showed people in the middle ages a television, they'd call it witchcraft and burn you at the stake.
And because you don't understand a theory, or maybe you just haven't studied it, doesn't mean there are gaping holes in it. And your example of an apple tree creating an orange randomly shows me that you have neither studied it nor understand it. If you need help understanding why some people can be gifted naturally with athletics and some people not, even if they're brothers, I'll explain it to you. The father has two sets of genes that he acquired, one from each of his parents. The mother has two sets of genes that she acquired, one from each of her parents. That is 4 total sets of genes in that gene pool. That couple's son gets two sets of genes at random, one from each parent. Let's say that one of the two sets the father had has athletic abilities (It's not quite that simple, but I'm dumbing it down for you) and the other set the father had has no athletic abilities. And we'll say the two sets the mother has, have no athletic abilities. Now if these two parents have a kid, that kid is going to have a 50/50 chance of getting the genes that have athletic abilities, because he is going to get one of the two sets the father has, one being the set in that gene pool that has the athletic abilities. So, if they have two kids and it's a 50/50 chance that the kid will have natural athletic talent, you can see how it is possible that one kid can get the abilities and one kid that doesn't. Now let's take this even further. Let's say that the parent's had two kids, one with the athletics and the other without and the parent's didn't have any more kids after that. Suppose those two kids were in a situation where something terrible was happening, like a grizzly bear was chasing them (because they didn't buy my rock) and the one kid, because of his athletics was able to get away and the other kid, who was not athletic at all got eaten. What just happened? If the athletic kid goes on to have kids of his own, there's a chance that those athletic abilities will be passed on to his kids, keeping those special genes in the gene pool. That is how evolution works and I can't make it any clearer than that. And before you come back with your tired argument of why aren't all people the same then, is it's because we're in a unique time of human history where gene pools are being mixed, especially in the United States. As I said before, it's no coincidence that black people make black babies, or that native hawaiin people share many of the same physical attributes. We also live in a time where physical prowess isn't necessary for our survival. Someone born blind can get along just fine in this world without being eaten by a saber toothed tiger. There are a couple problems inherent in creationist arguments. First, there is only one source of information used for all of your citations, the bible and that is a sketchy source at best. 2000 years ago there weren't many literate people. So, most of these stories got passed on word of mouth. Now I'm sure you've experienced it where someone was telling you about the events of a day you spent with them to someone else and they embellished on the facts a little to make the story more interesting. For instance maybe they were cut off in line at the store by a slightly overweight woman, but they retell the story as being trampled by a whale of a woman. There isn't a whole lot of difference there, but there is exaggeration, even from someone with first hand experience of the events. Now these bible stories have been retold by millions of people over thousands of years, so think of all the exaggerating done in that time. Not only that, way back then, story telling was tv. There were no books that were easily accessible to people even if they could read, so it's expected that there would be even more exaggeration in the stories to make them more interesting and hold an audience's attention. Even accounts of recent historical people have been embellished and are being taught in schools as fact, for instance the business about George Washington cutting down a cherry tree. Also over 2000 years the bible has gone through many translations and rewrites, if indeed it was meant as a historical account of what occured, much of what actually happened would have been lost. Not only that, for the majority of the history of the bible, it was written by scribes under the employ of whatever the ruling governments were at the time making it biased to whatever their political agendas were. Second, the default creationist answer is always "god made it that way" and that is the end of their argument. They strategically shift the burden of proof onto the people who oppose their way of thinking and that is not how an argument works. Creationists have a collection of mythical stories handed down over centuries as evidence, scientists have fossil records, repeatable lab experiments and genome maps of many, many different animals that confirm everything evolution theory proposes. Then the creationist says ,"well god made evolution and dna" once again leaving that as the argument and shifting the burden of proof. Religious people always say they have faith, and they know it in their heart. That's not an argument either. I can say the same thing about my points of view. I know it in my heart that there's no god. I feel it. For a lot of people, especially religious people that is a very scary thing, but it's actually quite liberating. Religious people have an endless battle of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole as the world continues to change and they struggle to make it conform to their beliefs. That's why there's a creationist/evolutionist debate in the first place. A person who is free of religion can see the world for what it really is and doesn't need to fit new discoveries with old beliefs. Taking this idea further, I do believe religion is holding us back. There are so many ways we could improve the lives of everyone in the world without the religion road block of stem cell research, cloning and human rights reform. | ||
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02-01-2011, 05:20 PM
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02-01-2011, 05:21 PM
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See, you go back into Leviticus and you're taking it as law, but what you don't know, or don't understand, is that the Old Testament law wasn't done away with but it was however fulfilled with the blood sacrifice of Jesus. So he fulfilled these things, where in does it say to hate the gay? No where, it does however say that homosexuality is detestable, and why were they to be killed? For the blood...but see Jesus already paid that sacrifice, so now they can live, and have the opportunity to come to forgiveness. It's also funny how you can not understand translations, especially when people translate the bible from a translation, those are irrelevant. In Exodus they're talking about if he beats his slave to death, that's not cool. If he beats his slave to the point where he can recover, then that's okay because he's only hurting his own property. See, that's part of culture, and in fact you can't understand that what was being said there, is if you keep killing your slaves, you're going to get yours, so be better to them. Ah, I've spent enough time here. You will attempt to refute things you don't understand with things that are simple. Proverbs 1 you should check it out. You act as if the warnings aren't there, that as if God is trying to trick people so he can be 'mean' and punish people. You're just going to sit here and keep calling me names, telling me how stupid I am, yet never being able to disprove anything I say. It's funny how that works, you get mad cause you have no proof that God doesn't exist, and you resort to the playground tactics yet again and call me indirectly a 12 yr. old. Good luck to you, and all of yours. For your sake I hope you're right, but when the time comes, don't say no one tried to tell you about Jesus. | |||
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02-01-2011, 05:24 PM
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or any of the norse gods Aesir Principal race of gods in Norse mythology. Andhrimnir The cook of the Aesir. Angrboda Goddess and wife of Loki Astrild Goddess of love. Atla Water goddess. Audhumla The primeval cow, formed from the melting ice. Balder Fairest of the gods Beyla The servant of Freyr. Borghild Goddess of the evening mist or moon, she slays the sun each evening. Bragi God of poets and the patron of all skaldi (poets) in Norse culture. Brono The son of Balder. He is the god of daylight. Bylgia Water goddess. Dagur The personification of day, he drives the day chariot across the sky. Disen A group of goddess in old Norse mythology. Called the "Dis of the Vanir". Eir Goddess of healing and shamanic healers, companion of the goddess Frigg Elli Goddess of old age. Fenrir Also known as Fenris. The great wolf, child of Loki and Angrboda Forseti God of justice who settles court disputes in his gilded hall. Freya Goddess of love, beauty and sensuality. Freyr God of fertility, sun and rain. Frigg Wife of Odin and the goddess of marriage and fertility. Gefion Goddess of agriculture and the plough. Gerd The wife of Freyr and a goddess of fertility. She is the personification of the fertile soil. Heimdall God of light and protection. Hel The goddess of death and ruler of the realm of the dead. Hermod The messenger of the gods. Often equated to the Greek god Hermes. Hod Blind god of darkness and winter. Holler God of disease and destruction. Idun Goddess of the spring, eternal youth and the keeper of the golden apples Jord Goddess of the primitive and unpopulated earth. Jormungand The Midgard Serpent Kari Leader of the storm giants. Kvasir The wisest of the Vanir gods. Laga Goddess of wells and springs. Lofn Goddess of forbidden love, who blesses all illicit love affairs. Loki Trickster god of the Norse, concerned with thievery, magic and fire. Magni Son of Thor and god of brute strength. Mani God of the moon and brother of the sun goddess Sol. Miming Minor forest god. Mimir Wisest god of the Aesir, sent in a hostage trade to the rival Vanir gods. Modi God of battle wrath, he was the leader of the berserkers. Njord God of the sea, wind and fire. He bestows good fortune to those on the sea. Norns The triple goddesses of fate and destiny. Nott Goddess of night who mans the night-charion in it's track through the sky. Odin The chief god of the Aesir and most important of the Norse deities. Ran Goddess of storms and the drowned dead. Saga Goddess of poetry and history. Sif Wife of Thor, and possibly an ancient fertility goddess. Sjofn Goddess of love, passion and marital harmony. Skadi A frost giant and goddess of winter. Sleipnir The eight-legged horse of Odin Sol Goddess of the sun, who guides the sun-chariot through the sky. Syn Goddess of watchfulness and truth. Thor Thunder-god and the protector of men and gods. Tyr The original god of war in the Germanic culture Ull God of justice and duelling, archery and skiing. Vali Son of Odin, and the god born to avenge the death of Balder. Valkyries The battle-maidens, who choose the best warriors Vanir A group of fertility and nature gods Var Goddess of contracts and marriage agreements Vidar Son of Odin and the god of silence and vengeance. OR romans Apollo Bacchus Bellona Ceres Cupid Diana Faunus Flora Janus Juno Jupiter Lares Libintia Maia Mars Mercury Minerva Mithras Neptune Ops Pales Pluto Pomona Proserpine Saturn Venus Vertumnus Vesta Vulcan Roman God of Sun, Music, Poetry, Prophecy, and Healing Roman God of Wine Roman Goddess of War Roman Goddess of Corn Roman God of Love Roman Goddess of Fertility, Hunting, and the Moon Roman God of Prophecy Roman Goddess of Flowers Roman God of Gates and Doors Roman Goddess of Marriage and Women Supreme King of the Roman Gods Roman God of Household and Estate Roman Goddess of Funerals Roman Goddess of Growth and Increase Roman God of War Roman messenger God and Commerce God Roman Goddess of Wisdom, Arts, and Trade Roman God of Sun and Light Roman God of the Sea Roman Goddess of Fertility Roman Goddess of Flocks and Sheppard's Roman God on the Underworld Roman Goddess of Fruit Trees and Fruit Roman Goddess of the Underworld Roman God of Seeds and Harvest Roman Goddess of Beauty and Love Roman God of Seasons Roman Goddess of the Hearth Roman God of Fire Or the Irish! Aine Angus Og Anu Babd Catha Bel Bran Brighid Bris Dagda Danu Diancecht Flidais Labraid Macha Niamh Irish Celtic Goddess of Love and Fertility Irish Celtic God of Beauty Irish Celtic Goddess of Manifestation Magick, Moon, Air, Fertility, and Prosperity Irish Celtic Goddess of War Irish Celtic God of Fire and Sun Irish Celtic God of Health Irish Celtic Goddess of Fire and Water. One of the triple Goddesses Irish Celtic God of Fertility and Agriculture Irish Celtic God of the Earth, and father God. Leader of the Tuatha de Danaan Irish Celtic Goddess of Rivers, Water, Wells, Prosperity, Magick, and Wisdom Irish Celtic God of Healing and Medicine Irish Celtic Goddess of Nature, Forests, Woodlands, and Wild Things Irish Celtic God of the Underworld Irish Celtic Goddess of Beauty and Brightness Irish Celtic Goddess of Beauty and Brightness
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