Warriors are useless in 90% of the games content

[Snaggles]

If you aren’t getting heals let alone CH the pure melee all have impressive defensive skills.
The issue with rogue is if you are tanking you are giving up about 40% your dps.

Warrior aggro for xp grouping has been overplayed. Root or don’t root, just slow the stuff so one npc doesn’t beat the piss out of three people. If you can keep up with regen and a fungi it’s no harm/foul for the healer.

End of day though, any antics that slows the group down is on the individual not being good. If you aren’t missing a step, keep pulling and going. If your healer needs constant med breaks get better classes or players.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude classic is not what p99 is.

P99 is a custom game based on EverQuest. Rogue tanking is overpowered. It’s very good. It shouldn’t be this good. It is.

That’s the facts, people’s feelings and desires for classic mean nothing compared to the facts.

They’re not as good as monks, they’re as good as knights and warriors AC for AC. Most rogues gear for str/MR/HP. Not AC. Put some AC on or get to the point where you have no choice but to stack AC anyway and only a few small decisions matter (earring 2, range slot etc) at BIS levels.

Rogues tank really good in normal content, ie: juggs. I've had rogue tanks for low lvl stuff lot of times. People weird thinking they can't tank.

[enjchanter]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sorry if i sound hostile btw, i just got hella triggered when someone told me im bad at the game because i dont think its a big deal to root mobs. like i literally just slow mobs and root so i can sit down. sometimes i root first because slow alone will get me instant aggro sometimes. i dont feel like this is a big deal or really a hard thing to do, especially with clicky. root is a fast cast.

Clerics don't need any help healing ppl
Rogues don't need any help to do damage


Warriors need help to be able to tank

Maybe you wouldn't have to root the mob before you slow if warriors could just do their job

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Clerics don't need any help healing ppl

I disagree. Cleric needs a tanky target to heal. They also appreciate mana regen and damage reduction spells.

[PatChapp]

Warriors dont need help to group tank, just like other tanks they need buffs and heals.
Totems are so op,a bag of 10 lasts all day if you use them only when the stupid rogue is trying to die.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Warriors dont need help to group tank, just like other tanks they need buffs and heals.
Totems are so op,a bag of 10 lasts all day if you use them only when the stupid rogue is trying to die.

It’s also okay for other classes to take the occasional hit. They have defence skills to practice and regen to contribute toward the healing pool.

[fortior]

Every melee capable of pulling aggro also has ways to drop aggro or is tanky enough to handle some blue con smacks

Priests and casters who don't suck can handle it as well, shamans drawing aggro with slow can tank a slowed mob just fine until the warrior regains aggro, clerics aren't drawing aggro, druids aren't drawing aggro. And aggro is a joke to the only casters worth picking up in your warrior group, enchanter and necro.

The main challenge is convincing people to take a warrior tank for your xp group instead of just going full charm dps mode. Make friends. Also, reroll monk unless your goal is specifically to have a level 60 warrior.

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude classic is not what p99 is.

P99 is a custom game based on EverQuest. Rogue tanking is overpowered. It’s very good. It shouldn’t be this good. It is.

That’s the facts, people’s feelings and desires for classic mean nothing compared to the facts.

They’re not as good as monks, they’re as good as knights and warriors AC for AC. Most rogues gear for str/MR/HP. Not AC. Put some AC on or get to the point where you have no choice but to stack AC anyway and only a few small decisions matter (earring 2, range slot etc) at BIS levels.

I actually agree with you. I had a level 60 rogue. Gave it to a friend when I quit EQ. He swore he wouldn’t change the password. Months later I try to log in and the password is changed. Turns out he sacrificed my rogue as low as he could, and then gave the account to some rando.

I called Sony and got my password reset. Anything of value was stripped, but I had all of my no drop stuff. Full sky shrine, jboots, epic, etc. remember being shocked when I logged in and made a thread on the forum and finding out what happened. My “friend” sac’d my char as low as he could, and then gave it to a rando who intentionally deleveled my rogue it to level 6 if I recall. I tried to find the silver lining. I was super low level, but I had a ragebringer and full skyshrine, so at least I could have some fun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I went into Crushbone expecting to be unstoppable, but still routinely died to orc legionaires [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] like I wasn’t this Uber tank slaughtering mobs, I still felt relatively weak and wasn’t really able to solo at any level on my quest back to 60+

Meanwhile on p99 I can take a rogue with banded armor and a trak tooth and slaughter all of crushbine at low level [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m not bashing p99, it’s my fav game on the market by far, but I know some of this isn’t truly classic,lol.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a rando deleveled my rogue to level 6. I was super low level, but I had a ragebringer and full skyshrine

I routinely died to orc legionaires [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I wasn’t this Uber tank, I still felt weak and wasn’t able to solo back to 60+

on p99 I can take a rogue with banded armor and a trak tooth and slaughter all of crushbine at low level [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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P99 isn’t using the classic anti twinking code, it is using the sol/pop revamp. The by level worn AC caps were much more aggressive earlier on.

Also mob attack/ac values feel way off.

It’s not classic, but it is a very good effort.

[Troxx]

Yeah on p99 currently leveling up an extreme mega-twink is easy.

If I ever get completely burned out on EQ I have contemplated deleveling my modestly geared (but improving!) raid warrior ALLLLLLLL the way down just to have some fun grinding back up in proportionally ludicrous gear.