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Old 06-16-2014, 12:26 AM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, and then I think I'm done with this thread. If "feeling like another guild or player is doing something they shouldn't be doing" is an acceptable reason to train, I want it spelled out in the server rules so I can start training people who do things I don't like. If you don't support that, then you can't be in this thread rationalizing Dinacarl's actions and you can't be in this thread saying it's ok for TMO to let it slide. You can still argue that a week of being unguilded is a strong enough punishment, but does anybody really believe that? I don't.

So that's it, then. As far as I'm concerned. If TMO's official stance is "if you train us every time you think we're misbehaving" I want to hear them say it so I can remember this moment.


If you want live like an outlaw, that's fine, but outlaws can't be rule lawyers, know what I'm saying?
"7. You may not harass others.

Harassment is defined as specifically targeting another player or group of players to harm or inconvenience them. As harassment can take many forms, the P99CSR involved will make a determination as to whether or not a "reasonable person" would feel harassed and act accordingly.

8. You may not disrupt the normal playability of a zone or area.

Zone/Area Disruption is defined as any activity designed to harm or inconvenience a number of groups rather than a specific player or group of players. This includes, but is not limited to::

-Monopolizing most or all of the kills in an area.

- Deliberately blocking a doorway or narrow area so other players cannot get past.

- Refusing to cooperate with the other parties at a contested spawn site after having been instructed to do so by a P99CSR.

- Making excessive and inappropriate use of public channels of communications (/shout, /ooc, etc.).

- Intentionally causing excessive zone latency (creating excessive corpses, abusing spell effects, etc.).

- Causing intentional experience loss to other players (deliberately impeding fleeing players by blocking their escape route, intentionally training NPCs on other players, etc.)."

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...ay+nice+policy

It was not right what he did, what you did did not justify him training you..... but if I did the backhanded shit you guys did I would be expecting some sort of backlash
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Old 06-16-2014, 01:16 AM
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You simply don't get the fact, that the entire premise of your argument is based on opinion. Nobody gives a fuck about yours.
Non-answer; nothing left to say, so he attempts to dismiss me rather than addressing my point (which he cannot rebut.) Never really had anything interesting to say in the first place, but this is pretty much the end of this guy even pretending to really be part of this grown-up conversation.

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"7. You may not harass others.

Harassment is defined as specifically targeting another player or group of players to harm or inconvenience them. As harassment can take many forms, the P99CSR involved will make a determination as to whether or not a "reasonable person" would feel harassed and act accordingly.

8. You may not disrupt the normal playability of a zone or area.

Zone/Area Disruption is defined as any activity designed to harm or inconvenience a number of groups rather than a specific player or group of players. This includes, but is not limited to::

-Monopolizing most or all of the kills in an area.

- Deliberately blocking a doorway or narrow area so other players cannot get past.

- Refusing to cooperate with the other parties at a contested spawn site after having been instructed to do so by a P99CSR.

- Making excessive and inappropriate use of public channels of communications (/shout, /ooc, etc.).

- Intentionally causing excessive zone latency (creating excessive corpses, abusing spell effects, etc.).

- Causing intentional experience loss to other players (deliberately impeding fleeing players by blocking their escape route, intentionally training NPCs on other players, etc.)."

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...ay+nice+policy

It was not right what he did, what you did did not justify him training you..... but if I did the backhanded shit you guys did I would be expecting some sort of backlash

So you're saying AE groups are a zone disruption and are against the PNP, and so, by extension, was our AE raid? Is that your point?
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Old 06-16-2014, 12:16 AM
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You simply don't get the fact, that the entire premise of your argument is based on opinion. Nobody gives a fuck about yours.
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Old 06-16-2014, 01:10 AM
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Where do you people find the time to talk about this so much geez
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Old 06-16-2014, 01:13 AM
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Where do you people find the time to talk about this so much geez
browsing the internet while doing other things is sooooo difficult. you must be so focused and exhausted
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Old 06-16-2014, 01:16 AM
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Snarky! I like it!
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Old 06-16-2014, 01:21 AM
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I think all of them actually..............................
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Old 06-16-2014, 01:33 AM
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I think all of them actually..............................
I tend to agree. Unfortunately it's been made abundantly clear that AE groups are an accepted strategy on this server and not against the rules. I kind of wish they weren't, myself, but what are ya gonna do?


The point being, no rule was broken. Your boy Emsee was quick to point out that my argument was based on opinion, but that's exactly the argument that's happening from the side defending the train: it's not against the rules, but in my opinion the thing BDA did here was mean, therefore they deserved the train. But again, there is nothing in the PNP that says "if someone's being mean to you, you get to train them," and the smart money is TMO would never in a million years agree to make that any kind of a thing (and neither would BDA, and neither would any guild that hopes to ever do anything in this game, because sometimes you have to be the bad guy to get what you need. Within the confines of the rules, of course- a concept every major contender guild on this server is guilty of proving they grasp at some point.)
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I think all of them actually..............................
how are you going to try and enforce a pnp rule on a zone that's supposed to be left alone to the guild that is up there. You are the most worthless piece of shit this server has. Easily.
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Old 06-16-2014, 01:36 AM
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This, of course, is all completely based on assuming that we really did just charge in there and swipe a bunch of mobs from GT/TMO, which has been argued to death in this thread and, well, my whole point is it's not relevant anyway.
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