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Old 08-30-2021, 11:41 AM
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Claims of bias from a GM when there are no current Vanquish members on staff having input on raid decisions
Who is the former member of Vanquish on staff?
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Old 08-30-2021, 11:47 AM
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Probably the Riot officer that is now a GM.
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Old 08-30-2021, 12:01 PM
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Some great character this guild has...Furor trained them once after the mob was dead with no intent to actually cheat a win of the mob
Not for lack of trying. He finally got it done the 3rd attempt after koi was dead but he tried very hard to train riot while the engage was active.

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with full intent to steal the mob cause they were beat.
Holy gaslighting batman! Talk about false narratives. Doesn't matter how many times a thing is explained to trainquish they'll still push their completely made up lie about what happened.
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Old 08-30-2021, 12:22 PM
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Holy gaslighting batman! Talk about false narratives. Doesn't matter how many times a thing is explained to trainquish they'll still push their completely made up lie about what happened.
I mean, why else would you so openly cheat? Dain lull pull, dispelling slow, training at trakanon, interrupting CH chains, intentionally buffing racers using buffs with a similar icon in an attempt to confuse them.

These things happened, no? Who the fuck is lying or pushing false narratives?

You don't dispell slow multiple times and claim they're accidents.

You don't interrupt CH chains constantly and claim they're accidents.

You don't buff several racers from a different guild with celerity as they zone out of Kael when they didn't even ask for it and claim that you weren't trying to trick them into thinking they had SOW instead.

ROFL.
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Old 08-30-2021, 12:23 PM
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Some great character this guild has...Furor trained them once after the mob was dead with no intent to actually cheat a win of the mob but all 5 of these things above happening in Riot with full intent to steal the mob cause they were beat.

Thats the antithesis of character
If his trying to train Riot was justified, and deserved: why lie about it to the GM's afterwards? Shouldn't he have been proud to claim credit for his righteous act?

"It's called character...choking on your teeth....etc."

lol.
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Old 08-30-2021, 04:08 PM
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Pro-tip, sow makes you run faster while haste makes you swing faster, this is obvious to good players.
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Old 08-30-2021, 04:18 PM
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Detoxx lecturing anybody about character is fucking hilarious.
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Old 08-30-2021, 04:28 PM
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Pro-tip, sow makes you run faster while haste makes you swing faster, this is obvious to good players.
Nice gas-lighting fuck boy
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Old 08-30-2021, 05:14 PM
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I mean, why else would you so openly cheat? Dain lull pull, dispelling slow, training at trakanon, interrupting CH chains, intentionally buffing racers using buffs with a similar icon in an attempt to confuse them.

These things happened, no? Who the fuck is lying or pushing false narratives?

You don't dispell slow multiple times and claim they're accidents.

You don't interrupt CH chains constantly and claim they're accidents.

You don't buff several racers from a different guild with celerity as they zone out of Kael when they didn't even ask for it and claim that you weren't trying to trick them into thinking they had SOW instead.

ROFL.
Lull pulling isn't cheating. There's no rule against it. The slow dispel on zlandicar was intentional and that person was guild removed immediately. You can't keep harping on it like Riot was completely cool with it or that it's a normal thing that happens all the time because that's a false narrative.

The statue dispel was accidental. It was at the very end when people normally faction tag, and that person had memmed the wrong spell where they usually had a nuke. That person is also someone who is esl so it wasn't readily apparent to them that they fucked up and why it took so long to figure out who/why they did what they did. It was an honest mistake, albeit an annoying one.

The eyeball at trakanon was again a mistake that we already conceded 2 traks for. The person buffing quickness on kiters was disciplined immediately and has never done it again and you all admitted it didn't cause any harm because your people noticed it right away. The interrupting CH chain in ooc while being a dick move is one that's solvable immediately by putting that person on ignore. Takes like 2 seconds and also never caused you all to wipe. You don't even know the story btw it wasn't celerity it was quickness and it wasn't kael it was ToV. Celerity has a bicep/arm icon.

The gaslighting and the false narratives occur when you take these ticky tack things that riot has done in the past (not the zlandi dispel that was obviously garbage and that's why the person was immediately guild removed) and try to draw equivalencies to much worse things that trainquish, and fr/ag before that, has done on purpose. You know what all of those things you listed have in common? They didn't affect your raid at all, you killed all the mobs in question except trak which is why we conceded 2.

There's a reason these are the only things you all keep repeatedly bringing up again and again and just won't drop even though we've served penalties and conceded mobs and guild removed players and it's because that's the only thing you all have to latch onto. We don't do even a quarter of the shady shit you all do and the stuff you do is MUCH worse. Orders of magnitude.

The reason riot and others harp on the loststalker train is not because it was a train, if that was it you probably would rarely hear about it. It's because your self righteous guild leader lied to GM's about it and 2 boxed to achieve his goal of training our raid in tov. Go look at a post by Galach real quick and tell me what his signature is. What the supposed penalty is for 2 boxing. It becomes clear real fast why we keep bringing it up.

I would say you all are too stupid to realize this shit but it's much worse and more nefarious than that. You know exactly what me and others are saying. You understand very clearly and you lie, obfuscate, gaslight, and offer whataboutisms to do anything you can to deflect or outright ignore those issues.
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Old 08-30-2021, 05:21 PM
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Nice gas-lighting fuck boy
You still do not grasp what gaslighting is, perhaps this will help:

"The best way to outsmart a gaslighter is to disengage. You can show up to the discussion with a mountain of evidence, videos, recordings, and more, and a gaslighting person will still find a way to deflect, minimize, or deny. It is more worth it to walk away with your perception intact."

The good news is, none of these Trainquish half-wits can affect my perception.
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