2020 Election MEGAthread

[Pretzelle]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s well documented Obama was an intricate part of capturing Osama and there’s a picture of him in the situation room while it was happening. Literally a simple google search would stop you from looking like a dumbass. Stop doing drugs.

This wasn't even that long ago. How many drugs are these people on?

[Jauna]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH FOR MY POINTS

[peterpal]

They pinned Obama on petty stuff when they could have done it on real issues like his drone strikes. But that doesn't resonate with Americans, his birth place matters more and it's the reason Trump got """"political""".

[Blingy]

Originally Posted by peterpal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They pinned Obama on petty stuff when they could have done it on real issues like his drone strikes. But that doesn't resonate with Americans, his birth place matters more and it's the reason Trump got """"political""".

IMO when Obama expanded the patriot act to the lengths he did that was more scary than the drone strikes. The worst part is our media was silent throughout the entire mess except the ones that lauded it as "he's making our country the safest ever by treating everybody like a hardened criminals" bullshit.

[hobart]

Originally Posted by Blingy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IMO when Obama expanded the patriot act to the lengths he did that was more scary than the drone strikes. The worst part is our media was silent throughout the entire mess except the ones that lauded it as "he's making our country the safest ever by treating everybody like a hardened criminals" bullshit.

If the last 20 years has taught us (those of us capable of learning) anything is that governmental overreach is ok when your side does it and bad when the other guys do.

People can always, and with some correctness, point to the diabolical shit the other guys are doing. Very few can smell their own.

I don't disagree with the point you're trying to make except that the last sentence is patently false. Obama's legitimate foreign policy failures were well covered.

[douglas1999]

Both sides endlessly criticize one another, that doesn't mean that all criticism is created equal.

It's also pretty glaringly obvious that like every single american news outlet other than fox skews left, which is fundamentally asymmetrical. And that's not to say that fox doesn't do the same thing, but again, not all biased cherry picked media headlines are created equal. They are generally all deceptive in some way, but some can be more deceptive and some can be less.

Every single person who posts here who leans left always seems to package some kind of 4th grade insult into their posts. "Those of us who can learn", "trumptard" (which is basically just the word retard), and thinly veiled suggestions that anyone who supports trump or votes for him should die or deserves to die. This is alarming to me, as somebody who has always considered myself part of the left. I do not see right wing people doing this almost ever. Wishing for the death of your political opposition is like the definition of fascism, you can't just say "well I'm ANTI fascist!" and that means you actually are.

[Pretzelle]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Both sides endlessly criticize one another, that doesn't mean that all criticism is created equal.

It's also pretty glaringly obvious that like every single american news outlet other than fox skews left, which is fundamentally asymmetrical. And that's not to say that fox doesn't do the same thing, but again, not all biased cherry picked media headlines are created equal. They are generally all deceptive in some way, but some can be more deceptive and some can be less.

Every single person who posts here who leans left always seems to package some kind of 4th grade insult into their posts. "Those of us who can learn", "trumptard" (which is basically just the word retard), and thinly veiled suggestions that anyone who supports trump or votes for him should die or deserves to die. This is alarming to me, as somebody who has always considered myself part of the left. I do not see right wing people doing this almost ever. Wishing for the death of your political opposition is like the definition of fascism, you can't just say "well I'm ANTI fascist!" and that means you actually are.

You in no way are on the left of the political spectrum. You seemingly hold zero progressive, socialist, or leftist positions that you've ever described on this forum. You're a hack troll that only defends Trump for some reason.

[hobart]

Originally Posted by Pretzelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You in no way are on the left of the political spectrum. You seemingly hold zero progressive, socialist, or leftist positions that you've ever described on this forum. You're a hack troll that only defends Trump for some reason.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by Pretzelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You in no way are on the left of the political spectrum. You seemingly hold zero progressive, socialist, or leftist positions that you've ever described on this forum. You're a hack troll that only defends Trump for some reason.

Okay, well I support abortion (not including 3rd trimester) gay rights, civil rights for all people and the sanctity of extant human life (IE; I do not wish death on people I disagree with politically). I defend trump because so much of the criticism levied at him is complete horseshit and clearly deceptive. I will happily defend a democrat, in fact I want to, if they receive any unfair criticism. They just haven't been receiving that lately.

I don't hold "progressive" positions, specifically, because I don't like that term. Progressing toward what exactly? Hey guys, "progress" is right there in the name of my ideology, therefor it is always good! No, it's not. It's often very naive and terrible for millions of people. Like marxism and socialism, it sounds great on paper. Then you implement it and ooooops, guess we have to kill everyone who doesn't agree with us. What a great way to organize society.

There's this cool thing you can do where you don't just rigidly adhere to a prescription from one political party or entity. You'll be much less angry and full of resentment and cynicism.

[quido]

These threads are full of retards.