GM Rule book from Kunark/ Velious - Limited CS Zones

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Gadwen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't a life and death situation here, it's a conscious decision to act like animals.

Allowing training in any zone on eq is 100% non classic.
Its just a perversion of the term "non-csr" which benefits only TMO and no other guilds.
Why is this non classic rule allowed yet so many other areas of the game are strictly kept classic.
shit makes no sense.

[falkun]

Lorean, I completely agree with your assessment of TMO's situation, "We already get it all, what do we gain from negotiations?" But Xasten isn't agreeing with your assessment, or at least he believes TMO would "mull over" concessions, and that's what I called him out on in my original post in this thread.

[dbouya]

not sure if this is relevant but i am 100% sure that GM's did enter sleeper's tomb and keep an eye on things, the lead gm admitted to me that they attended a few of our first warder kills to make sure we weren't exploiting anything ( we used a lot of geometry to block AoEs which was a fairly new tactic at the time and I guess CS wanted to make sure we didn't take it too far ), I think we had the world first kill on either 3rd or 4th warder, forget which... so it wasn't entirely non-csr, although we also never had a single problem in the zone which meant we wanted help.

also about non-training... back in the year 2000 we saw some training, nothing was really done about it, but I think the THREAT that csr might do something about it, is what kept it so minimal... so... in 1999-2001 on my server training to be a dick was technically not allowed, but if you did it a few times no one would really make a big deal about it.


kunark saw quite a lot of training, and velious saw almost none, there were THREE top tier raiding guilds on our server and each of them just chose a different faction to follow predominantly, it was glorious, and there were only a few headbanging moments in coldain/kael, in the 0.5-1.0 years I played velious I never once saw a train being done in sleeper's then again our server got along fairly well for the most part during the velious era, so I'm not entirely sure what sony's non-csr policy really meant, but I do know they DEFINITELY did not publish their non-csr policy to the public, or promote it, so while maybe the CSR staff was forbidden to interfere in trains in sleeper's tomb, the people interested in training didn't know this and thusly were slightly less likely to do it, eh?

[Godefroi]

Training wasn't allowed, thank you, QFT.

Sirken ?

[quido]

Remember when everyone thought the condoned training was unfair to TMO?

[Reguiy]

I'm against training, and all the BS that goes along with high end raiding. But when everyone cries about it on the forums I almost want the GMs to keep all that shit in. Anyone else with me?

[Godefroi]

Nope, Fennin Ro and TMO ( Besides Ele and Xasten ) are the only one that are voting against.

Then again, we all know those people don't like shit to be classic.

[Reguiy]

Originally Posted by Godefroi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope, Fennin Ro and TMO ( Besides Ele and Xasten ) are the only one that are voting against.

Then again, we all know those people don't like shit to be classic.

Sweet. My name is Fennin now.

[Godefroi]

Originally Posted by Reguiy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sweet. My name is Fennin now.

Being from Fennin Ro you don't really have to hide your ties with TMO and the fact that you don't want training to be forbidden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Reguiy]

Originally Posted by Godefroi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being from Fennin Ro you don't really have to hide your ties with TMO and the fact that you don't want training to be forbidden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I could really care less what happens in VP, as I don't raid there. But when people go on the boards and cry all day, it really doesn't make me feel bad for you, or want there to be a rule change. It probably doesn't help your cause with the GMs either.