Vox PUG starting 6/14/10

[Gwence]

you should pug naggy, vox with 22 unexpierenced and shit geared people is a complete waste of time.

[Abacabb]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you should pug naggy, vox with 22 unexpierenced and shit geared people is a complete waste of time.

I don't doubt my crew, if we got the CR/MR resists and we can keep her cheals to a minimum to not at all we're golden

[Gwence]

Originally Posted by Abacabb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't doubt my crew, if we got the CR/MR resists and we can keep her cheals to a minimum to not at all we're golden

lol, well it sure sounds easy enough. =p

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Abacabb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We have the force, we're not questioning that... We are questioning the fact that they'll try to strong arm by saying we are not a collective guild when it comes down to it, so because the top guilds will call us out on that we're not going to abide by the timers and calls

I don't speak for my guild but I for one fully support your PuG raid attempt!
Good luck man!

[Taluvill]

Originally Posted by Abacabb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't doubt my crew, if we got the CR/MR resists and we can keep her cheals to a minimum to not at all we're golden

I dont speak for my guild, but do it bro. I hope you guys actually get the kill done!!

The one problem that you dont seem to get is that its the same thing gwence said.

Sounds really, really easy. just keep her ch's to a minimum and your gtg...

Heh. Good luck = ) Naggers would be much easier for a group of 22.

[Otto]

I still don't understand why you think lots of the top end raiders want these rules and not a first to engage/ffa raid environment.

[rioisk]

I support FFA. Total and utter FFA. Any rules only distorts incentives/behavior of the players. Allow training. Allow trying to out-DPS. If there is no direct PvP allow indirect. This "playing nice" currently benefits those who play the most.

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Abacabb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've got a list of 22 people that want to do this, and you're going to ban them because we're going to try and make a legit attempt at downing a raid encounter?

Are we training? KSing? No. We're just not going to adhere to made up timers that only exist to satiate the greed of the top two contending guilds. If you want to ban people for raiding EXACTLY how live was, that's your beef bro.

We're going to have the force, we're going to show up, we're going to give two fucks what IB/DA says because the rules only exist for them because they benefit them and not the smaller guilds or the solitary players.

and to anyone that actually thinks this is just "Oh no Abacab is just trying to cause more R&F drama for his amusement" you're ignorant. I've talked to many people in mumbles about it, many people in game about it for sometime now and we do consider this a legit claim.

Where you stated this

but we are not held accountable on all these calls and time limits... If we are there for the encounter, we're going for it.

You are held accountable to these calls & time limits. If you can't buck up and get it done, then get out of the way. I got my start in pick raids & planes so I know what you're aiming for. But pick up raids are held to the same rules as any other raid.

[rioisk]

Don't worry Abacabb, I think by Kunark the Devs will understand.

[RKromwell]

I still don't get it, why Vox? That is one tough bitch. I saw her eat group after group of people who were sitting on 56 for months just so they could get that kill in. Pick up raids can be fun but man this might be too much sandwich for you.