Gun People / Gun Haters

[Charlton Heston]

The founders were very aware that throughout history only slaves have been disarmed.

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[Tarathiel]

and seriously you right wing whackos should just stfu too, nobody is "gunna take ur gunz aways" fucking god damn, they didnt take your guns away after virginia tech or columbine, what the fuck makes you think shit will change now?

[Ephirith]

Say what you will about guns and how we legislate them, I'll never convince the redneck survivalists. But the second amendment needs to be amended. That shit was written around 1789 when "bearing arms" meant a musket or flintlock pistol. You couldn't walk into a room and spray 20 or 30 people with a musket.

Also, back then an armed populace actually meant something militarily because soldiers used the same kinds of weapons and equipment. Today, you're fucking retarded if you think your gun means anything when it comes to fighting for your freedom. If the government decides to turn on you, you lose. Yea, you gonna go out in the woods and form a resistance? All it takes to fix that is one night and one attack helicopter with thermal imaging. Gonna hold out in your house? Good luck against an armor column.

If the government becomes corrupt, authoritarian, or tyrannical, it won't be because you didn't have your guns. It will be because people became too fucking ignorant and out of touch to properly sustain a healthy republic. Voting, education, and enlightened thinking have x10000 more bearing on the health of your system than your fucking guns.

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by Charlton Heston [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Abortion is one of the most common surgical procedures in the United States

liberals are A-OK with murdering babies

and conserative's dont give 2 shits about the babie's after they are born, so everyone is fucked. how this is even relevant to the conversation is beyond me tho

[Charlton Heston]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and seriously you right wing whackos should just stfu too, nobody is "gunna take ur gunz aways" fucking god damn, they didnt take your guns away after virginia tech or columbine, what the fuck makes you think shit will change now?

UN Small Arms Treaty that Obama is trying to force through

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[Charlton Heston]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and conserative's dont give 2 shits about the babie's after they are born, so everyone is fucked. how this is even relevant to the conversation is beyond me tho

Quite the contrary. The majority of worldwide children aid charities are Christian related, which I would assume is quite conservative.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the government becomes corrupt, authoritarian, or tyrannical, it won't be because you didn't have your guns. It will be because people became too fucking ignorant and out of touch to properly sustain a healthy republic. Voting, education, and enlightened thinking have x10000 more bearing on the health of your system than your fucking guns.

a-fucking-men

[Itap]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't have children of my own.

Stopped reading right there. You don't know what you're talking about, you don't know what empathy means, you don't see whats wrong with murdering of children. You are a fcked up individual

Stop trolling these forums

[Charlton Heston]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Say what you will about guns and how we legislate them, I'll never convince the redneck survivalists. But the second amendment needs to be amended. That shit was written around 1789 when "bearing arms" meant a musket or flintlock pistol. You couldn't walk into a room and spray 20 or 30 people with a musket.

Also, back then an armed populace actually meant something militarily because soldiers used the same kinds of weapons and equipment. Today, you're fucking retarded if you think your gun means anything when it comes to fighting for your freedom. If the government decides to turn on you, you lose. Yea, you gonna go out in the woods and form a resistance? All it takes to fix that is one night and one attack helicopter with thermal imaging. Gonna hold out in your house? Good luck against an armor column.

If the government becomes corrupt, authoritarian, or tyrannical, it won't be because you didn't have your guns. It will be because people became too fucking ignorant and out of touch to properly sustain a healthy republic. Voting, education, and enlightened thinking have x10000 more bearing on the health of your system than your fucking guns.

I would argue we are already down that road.

Also lose, like the government is losing in Afghanistan for 11 years?

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah but some 13 year old kids gonna have alot harder time getting ahold of a gun in if their are stricter laws. Also the Bill of rights really? I mean thats like trying to use a map from 1400 today to navigate. People and society change. I bet if the signers of the Bill of Rights would have been able to look in the future and see what Freedom to bear arms means nowadays they would have changed their minds.

I disagree. The Founding Fathers put in the 2nd Amendment so the people would have the firepower to overthrow the government if it trended toward tyranny. And considering that they felt a tax on tea a good enough reason to fight a war, I'm pretty sure they would consider our current >50% net taxation well north of tyrannical, not to mention the fact that the TSA gets to grab your balls every time you use an airplane, or our various foreign wars.

Alawen, reacting to what's put in front of you instead of what you can't see doesn't make you racist, it makes you human, and this is why the media substantially run our country.

Lastly, to all you gun control nuts, there is simply 0 evidence that gun control actually reduces crime . . . for the obvious reason that criminals don't follow gun laws. Gun control is one of those ideas that is neat, simple, logical and wrong. Read for example: http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp or

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Implementing gun control immediately caused the crime rate in DC.