Yes, Virigina. PVP does exist.

[SamwiseBanned]

yup confirmed, avoided pvp at all costs, went straight to the largest guild on server. Bravo to mindsculptor tho, he really had me fooled. talked about how he was in BDA and had to fight the big bad TMO for raid zones ect ect. Went straight to TMO red lulz. you new players have no idea you are the ones killing the server.

[SamwiseBanned]

in response, i have no idea what you are talking. I had a feeling you were going straight to Nilly. Goku and Mayor were way obvious. Insane was obvious as fuck, that dude had pixels on the mind 24/7. Greenthumb was hilarious. I asked if he was gonna join Nilly or not. He was concerned that he wouldnt be able to catch up in DKP. I lold when he said that and knew he was going straight there.

the problem is new players dont wanna earn anything. i want to be spoon fed loots. From Destin on its been a complete joke to take any new nilly member seriously.

[Vayder]

I don't know what it's going to take to get you to understand that an average of 21 raiders per raid is not a zerg.

How many players do you think a raid should be allowed to take on Trak? What about Gorenaire? VP?

Gokuu, Mindsculptor, Mayor, and I were 4-manning Efreeti in our low 40s. I don't know what the talk about being afraid and taking the easy path is about.

Also, I believe it was my crew that was leading the charge with fun grouping but you can continue to ignore stuff like this was happening:

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[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by Vayder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know what it's going to take to get you to understand that an average of 21 raiders per raid is not a zerg.

How many players do you think a raid should be allowed to take on Trak? What about Gorenaire? VP?

Gokuu, Mindsculptor, Mayor, and I were 4-manning Efreeti in our low 40s. I don't know what the talk about being afraid and taking the easy path is about.

Also, I believe it was my crew that was leading the charge with fun grouping but you can continue to ignore stuff like this was happening:

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youre fine with a one guild server, there is no rationalizing with you. hope it works out for ya.

[CrystalBlue]

Originally Posted by Vayder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know what it's going to take to get you to understand that an average of 21 raiders per raid is not a zerg.

How many players do you think a raid should be allowed to take on Trak? What about Gorenaire? VP?

Address this point please samwise, these are the facts.

If you want a 21 raiders per average raid , to split into two guilds of 10 or 11 each, would you then support making trakanon,etc easier to it can be two grouped?

But then we are back to what LoZ is arent we? See how this circle goes?

You want to know what the REAL solution is? STFU and start logging in for Red Dawn raids Samwise....

Be part of the solution.

[Vayder]

Originally Posted by SamwiseBanned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

youre fine with a one guild server, there is no rationalizing with you. hope it works out for ya.

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Agreed. Red Dawn is doing some good work. We caught Red Dawn at a bad moment. The next time this happens I expect it to be quite different.

But that's the point. There will be a next time.

RD is doing work and has that to be proud of. If all the forum warriors spent 1/4th the time in game that they do on the boards they'd be leading the charge with RD into mass pvp battles on the regular.

[Vayder]

Originally Posted by CrystalBlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Address this point please samwise, these are the facts.

If you want a 21 raiders per average raid , to split into two guilds of 10 or 11 each, would you then support making trakanon,etc easier to it can be two grouped?

But then we are back to what LoZ is arent we? See how this circle goes?

You want to know what the REAL solution is? STFU and start logging in for Red Dawn raids Samwise....

Be part of the solution.

[Barkingturtle]

I keep opening this thread expecting vaginal pvp.

Good thing I can fap to just about anything.

[SamwiseBanned]

didnt realize the entire server was riding on Nihilum downing some kunark dragons. I take back what i said, getting more people in Nihilum should be a priority for the server.

[SamwiseBanned]

now why did you run to Nihilum instead of helping VV? literally all the unemployed poopsockers who have done all these raids on blue teamed up and joined one guild. where is the challenge in that?