Continued from Trakanon thread

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by CrystalBlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogean just needs to know that many people (most) who rolled up casters on this server will be gone for good when its patched in that all their MR based spells (and dots in the case of shaman) are now suddenly useless in PvP and they proceed to get run over by the well geared and now CC (and mostly all spells in general) melees of the server.

Some will stay and reroll to god-mode Monks, but the rest will say bubye when suddenly they have zero place in pvp on this "pvp server". Or do you think all those now worthless casters will stick around for their PvE roll alone?

Once again you are suggesting this catastrophy of a move for some hidden evil reason since you have not even played on the server in months.

Do I have to break it down class by class and let all the servers enchanters/druids/shaman/etc know what you have in store for them? lol

Ya, and we already know from these very forums dozens of cases where people PRESENTLY don't play because of the resist system. How many times have we heard people say resists are bad and quit? If they quit because the mechanics are classic, fuck them, this is SUPPOSED to be CLASSIC PVP.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by CrystalBlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please consult:

http://i50.tinypic.com/3508gfr.png

Fixed that for you.

Every spell has a value where once the target reaches that level of resistance, they resist it out right.

Now the question is: does this server have that mechanic in place? Or are the values just wrong?

It's one of the two. Not everything is a dice roll in EQ where something CAN happen, albeit with insanely low odds. Some things are *literally* just impossible to land because a certain value is reached. The dice do not apply.

Class dismissed.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by SamwiseBanned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

when you provide proof that a blue con bat cannot stun at 100mr then ill believe you. memories from 13 years ago wouldnt hold up in court nor does it hold up here. on the other hand ive provided you with emperical evidence. Vayder linked post as well as I. Maybe you should read up on it. as far as the magic first cast root, how does that even make sense.

The memories of 99% of this forum are that you'd never need, AT BEST, more than 100MR to resists roots/stuns/blinds/snares in pvp. In a courtroom you wouldn't need 100 people saying the same thing, you need two unless contested, and frankly its not. Just because you have no idea what everquest was like because you were probably 12 years old, doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't. Go ahead tho, pretend the 2 quotes you have of HIGH end resist recommendations from velious after the debuff patch applies to this era.

[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You first (maybe 2nd?) casted me in solb soon as I zoned in with 120+mr. If thats not bad enough, you were around 8 levels under me. I got first casted with 171 last week by someone 4 levels under me. 171 first cast is my record in the last week, but I've had several 140s, 130s and numerous in betweens in the last month.

so it could have been my 2nd cast. interesting... also get ready to get headshotted.

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[SamwiseBanned]

also i was clearly level 50 in that encounter. you state I was 8 levels under you. so which is it?

[Dullah]

You were blue con dude. The day before you were pewpewin, but it wasn't with starfire. Please don't make me keep digging thru my logs. At best you had just dinged 49.

Charts means nothing other than that it takes like 140MR to have just a 90% chance to resist root... thats only TWICE AS MUCH AS YOU NEEDED IN 1999!

note: perhaps enlarging font will help comprehension for retards

[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You were blue con dude. The day before you were pewpewin, but it wasn't with starfire. Please don't make me keep digging thru my logs. At best you had just dinged 49.

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also was chain stunned 4 or 5 times by that same bat with around 100 mr, during that same fight

Not my level in screenshot.

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Originally Posted by Dullah
You first (maybe 2nd?) casted me in solb soon as I zoned in with 120+mr. If thats not bad enough, you were around 8 levels under me. I got first casted with 171 last week by someone 4 levels under me. 171 first cast is my record in the last week, but I've had several 140s, 130s and numerous in betweens in the last month.

[SamwiseBanned]

also I forgot the entire quote from Null

Originally Posted by Null [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is a chart for 'Root'. You can ignore the low and high partial lines, since they don't have any bearing on roots.

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And here is the results of 20,000 simulated casts against 120MR:

Spell Name: Root Resist Mod: 25
Casts: 20000 Full Hits: 0 Partials 2305 Resists: 17695
Resists Percent: 88.47% Average Partial: 38.18
Average Damage: 0.00

20000 roots at 120 MR sample vs one of Destins longs. hmmmmmm

[Nirgon]

Root landing at 120 MR. There's your problem. It just seems to keep happening too doesn't it? Everytime you ask someone to post a proof of it landing on a first case? It comes up.

On live we couldn't even root someone in no drop gear that was tashed and fully dispelled.

What's your reason for defending all this again? Mine are I want a classic resist system. Yours? I highly suspect the desire for a pvp crutch.

[SamwiseBanned]

Let us use logic instead of false memory. Most chars start with what 25 mr? Okay so GMR at lvl 50 gives 50 mr. So you are telling me one resist magic buff should = CC immunity despite multiple classic posts advising 120-140+ mr minimum?