FTE is Fing stupid

[quido]

Hey say what you will, I just think you guys are really dumb to press for a rotation, especially a rotation that includes the highest priority targets where you think you deserve as many freebies as us.

That is why I say it never ends - because such blindness doesn't end.

If you'd actually thought about this you'd try to press for an outdoor dragon rotation or something more reasonable. But no, you want free Trakanons and VSs, so who gives a fuck if what we propose is ludicrous?! WE WANT THEM.

[Adrieth]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey say what you will, I just think you guys are really dumb to press for a rotation, especially a rotation that includes the highest priority targets where you think you deserve as many freebies as us.

That is why I say it never ends - because such blindness doesn't end.

If you'd actually thought about this you'd try to press for an outdoor dragon rotation or something more reasonable. But no, you want free Trakanons and VSs, so who gives a fuck if what we propose is ludicrous?! WE WANT THEM.

I have to be honest here, no one is saying we want free loot. What we are saying is we want everyone to have a chance to experience content that was so much fun in the past. This is why when TMO has been suspended or prohibited from engaging raid mobs we (BDA) have immediately stepped up and opened the spawn to the server. Yes, we shot ourselves in the foot with the last Draco thing. Our bad for trying to improve the community.

We can start with outdoor dragons, let's do a beta run to see how the server feels about it.

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey say what you will, I just think you guys are really dumb to press for a rotation, especially a rotation that includes the highest priority targets where you think you deserve as many freebies as us.

the problem with this is that TMO will never have the "competition" it desires from the current guilds on the server. if there was another IB or TR on the server then yes i would probably agree with you guys. but as it stands TMO can claim 90% of the "hardcore" raiders as their own. all the casuals are asking for is a shot at few mobs without the constant fear of being trained, leapfrogged, fte sniped or rules lawyered out of the kill. at the end of the day this is a PVE server, the majority of the people that are joining are "casual" players who have no desire to do anything besides compete against PVE content, not hardcore elitist's. dont you guys realize you would still get the majority of targets? seriously, if trakanon spawns at 2am PST you can be pretty well assured you will still get the kill regardless of who's turn it is

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what never ends? please tell us more about how TMO owns every mob on the server and how us spoiled little casuals just want free shit, please TMO unless you have something constructive to add to the conversation lets not muck it up. if you guys have no interest in a rotation then back out of this thread and let us continue the conversation with people that do

So BDA can decide a rotation on the server, when the only guild on the server getting the kills cant have input?

Derp

[Daliant17447]

Heres what I would propose for a rotation

Trakanon:
Open race
BDA gets 10 minute head start
Any guild but TMO/BDA get a 20 minute head start
-repeat-

VS:
Open race
Open race
Any guild but TMO/BDA get a 20 minute head start
-repeat-

Cazic Thule:
Open race
BDA gets 15 minute head start
Any guild but TMO/BDA get a 30 minute head start
-repeat-

Innoruuk
Open race
BDA gets 10 minute head start
Any guild but TMO/BDA get a 20 minute head start

All other targets are open race every spawn

[Adrieth]

Originally Posted by Daliant17447 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Heres what I would propose for a rotation

Trakanon:
Open race
BDA gets 10 minute head start
Any guild but TMO/BDA get a 20 minute head start
-repeat-

VS:
Open race
Open race
Any guild but TMO/BDA get a 20 minute head start
-repeat-

Cazic Thule:
Open race
BDA gets 15 minute head start
Any guild but TMO/BDA get a 30 minute head start
-repeat-

Innoruuk
Open race
BDA gets 10 minute head start
Any guild but TMO/BDA get a 20 minute head start

All other targets are open race every spawn

I'm okay with this, but in the interest of fairness, I would like to see things carved out specifically for TMO as well. You all should get some easy kills (ya ya, they're all easy, blah blah. I'm just saying: let's make it fair to all parties). Also, the head start timer should be flat for all guilds. That would encourage progression of each guild with an even expectation for all.

[quido]

lol I'm sorry, this is too much

[Knightt]

Guys Let em have it man if they honestly still get enjoyment out of killing mobs in 30 sec that is all that matters now if they are doing it just to despite everyone its another thing. either get your guild up there and compete or just drop it . i would love for everyone to get a piece of everything but honestly its not gonna happen. So lets sit around contest what we can and hope that TMO gets bored before velious and starts letting people have some spawns . no sense in stressing about this shit SO PLZ LET IT GO. love your what your trying to do BDA but honestly they must still enjoy zerging and poopsocking and what not so let it be because thats what it is all about sorry i didnt have time to spell check or fix it up for the trolls but late night group in efreeti keeps me down this morning

[toyodafenninro]

All of the references to waking up at 2am...4am...whatever the time may be, and the difficulties of raiding w/ a wife/kids/dog/ostrich/lizard are silly. If all of TMO raided from the same global time zone this point would have merit. We don't, though. We have members from many varied time zones and locations. We have players in Seattle, Boston, New York...we have players in Spain, and France. We have Canadians from both coasts, Brits and people who log in from Asia. Additionally, we have shift workers like Police, Fire, and Security who routinely work night shifts and for whom logging in at 4am is the equiv of a nice afternoon raid. Most of us have significant others, many are married and many have children. We actively prioritize recruiting based on our timezone needs as well. It really isn't that amazing of a feat for such a group of players to kill merbs at all hours of the day, especially when said kill involves logging in a parked character for 10-30 mins.

[Adrieth]

Originally Posted by Knightt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guys Let em have it man if they honestly still get enjoyment out of killing mobs in 30 sec that is all that matters now if they are doing it just to despite everyone its another thing. either get your guild up there and compete or just drop it . i would love for everyone to get a piece of everything but honestly its not gonna happen. So lets sit around contest what we can and hope that TMO gets bored before velious and starts letting people have some spawns . no sense in stressing about this shit SO PLZ LET IT GO. love your what your trying to do BDA but honestly they must still enjoy zerging and poopsocking and what not so let it be because thats what it is all about sorry i didnt have time to spell check or fix it up for the trolls but late night group in efreeti keeps me down this morning

I have to believe this is not true. I have to believe TMO is burning people out (why are they absorbing other guilds?). I have to believe they actually want to promote competition, but also want to have fun and promote a good community to keep this game running.

The casuals will burn out/get bored before TMO does. I think that's safe to say. I believe doing something like this would be great for the P99 server.