Resists, Null's custom versus Classic.

[Amuk]

Originally Posted by SamwiseBanned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you guys been playing garbage boxes so much that you've forgotten actual classic pvP. you are used to 10 v 10 boxing enabled battles, not 15v15+ individuals on vent coordinating cc. If you think you should be immune to 6 people chain rooting you then sorry, maybe a low level twink would be better suited for your ez mode playstyle

Most epic quote on forums to date. God this community/GM's are retards LOL.

[SamwiseBanned]

I don't recall rooting destin. I typical just nuke wizards

[SamwiseBanned]

When I said little tweak I was referring to level range. I had a lvl 16 sk land everything on me with 35 mr. I am 100% sure level range is not being factored in and yes I reported it. I was 45 at the time.

[SamwiseBanned]

All I'm saying is thAt it's not as bad as people make it seem. In a 1v1 situation root isn't really the deciding factor seeing as how it can easily be pumiced off just as fast as it can be casted and you'll resist most roots with 70-90 mr

[heartbrand]

MR did make you immune on live, whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, that's up for debate. Personally, I think the return on investment for resist gear for damaging spells is not worth it, for CC it should be like on live.

Though I do agree, it's funny seeing a lot these VZTZ legends who know nothing of PVE except what they've seen on their boxes be flummoxed repeatedly by classic EQ encounters, and then having the audacity to say "this encounter isn't classic!" lol

[SamwiseBanned]

Dullah, log on with your 170 mr and tell me how many roots land out of 20. I don't care about first, second, third cast and neither does the math involved. Just gimme some real numbers to work with. Right now the arguement from both sides has been "in my experience" including myself. In my experience, more than half if not more of my roots have ever landed, against Nihilum I'd say 1/5th of all my roots have landed. Again the 1/5 ratio is on the top of my head so i could be wrong.

in fact all of you in favor of changing the resist system should be taking pics of you level and mr with one of your chat boxes showing 20 or so roots casted in a row by someone of similiar level. I know Null has that root parser thingamagic but maybe that thing isnt right. Let's put some actual SS of proof up so we can get the facts straights.

[Dullah]

At 120 I was getting rooted about 1 out of 7 with an even con. Sort of moot though when in pvp it doesn't seem to apply for that first cast when you enter a zone. With two people casting, that means you're rooted in a matter of seconds. A pure melee has no chance to pumice if someone is hitting them with 0 channeling. Thats basically good game for something that takes 1% of your mana bar and a matter of a few seconds.

I wasn't playing Destin at the time btw.

[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At 120 I was getting rooted about 1 out of 7 with an even con. Sort of moot though when in pvp it doesn't seem to apply for that first cast when you enter a zone. With two people casting, that means you're rooted in a matter of seconds. A pure melee has no chance to pumice if someone is hitting them with 0 channeling. Thats basically good game for something that takes 1% of your mana bar and a matter of a few seconds.

I wasn't playing Destin at the time btw.

not calling you a liar i just think that SS proof will be better than recollections of the events. I logged on to test it for the discussion. I am going to post my results even thought my first batch of tests doesnt help my case. Casted root/snare on myself 10 times (yes i know this is not enought) with 32 MR then 72 MR. here are the SS.

First test, grasping root with 32 MR then 72 MR. oddly I resisted root more with lower MR lol. Anyhow i'll still post. EDIT: 2nd screenshot should read 4/10 resisted not landed.

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Second test, snare with 32 mr then 72 mr. clearly helped, at 72 mr was almost immune to snare. EDI: first SS should say 4/10 resisted not landed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Last test i went back to grasping root, again first with 32 mr then 72. These results made a little more sense.

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I was casting on myself so this could be issue if somehow the resist check is different when casting on self. at least this ensure even level range.

Wish I had MR gear to test out 100+ mr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[SamwiseBanned]

in summary:

Grasping root at 32 MR
5/10 resisted then 6/10 resisted

Grasping root at 72 MR
4/10 resisted then 8/10 resisted

Snare at 32 MR
4/10 resisted

Snare at 72 MR
9/10 resisted

Not shown but tested, another 20 grasping roots with 72 mr
13/20 resisted

[Dullah]

My tests were over 100+ casts. 10 casts is not even close to a legitimate sample size. 100 isn't even, but it gives you a general idea.