What would it take for you to switch to Red99?

[evilnancyreagan]

as mentioned before; since you can be logged into blue and red simultaneously there really isn't much reason to not putz around on red from time to time other than the fear of having some assclown squash your epeen. with all the inherent down time eq bestows upon us, a jovial foray into the entertaining masochism that is red should be an obvious distraction. I guess some people will never say "spit in my mouth!".

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by evilnancyreagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

as mentioned before; since you can be logged into blue and red simultaneously there really isn't much reason to not putz around on red from time to time other than the fear of having some assclown squash your epeen. with all the inherent down time eq bestows upon us, a jovial foray into the entertaining masochism that is red should be an obvious distraction. I guess some people will never say "spit in my mouth!".

Being logged in with one toon on each blue and red isn't considered boxing? Very cool.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Weekapaug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being logged in with one toon on each blue and red isn't considered boxing? Very cool.

I do this while auctioning in EC or tracking for raid mobs. I'm surprised so few people do this.

[Weekapaug]

That's fantastic.

[porigromus]

I would Play on red but population bad. I don't want to play alone.

[Smilkers]

Originally Posted by Weekapaug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Playing EQ pvp is kind of like driving in NYC. The first few times you do it, you think everyone is freaking insane. After a while you realize there is a method to the madness and it actually works great if everyone is on board.

The biggest thing, I think, blue players don't realize about EQ pvp is, while it's a lot harsher and less practical than in other games, certainly less hand-holdy, it breathes whole new life into a game that weve all played over and over and over. It adds randomness that doesn't exist. I can go get Jboots now for any toon on blue I want in a matter of hours. I could never have done that on live because no one knew how the spawn really worked back then. Can I do that on red now? I don't have a toon that can camp it yet, but if I did, would I just be able to do it at leisure? I doubt it. It will be actual work.

If you are blue and curious about what I'm talking about, get on the wiki and browse thru the different classes spell lists. A lot of "crap" that classes get that are barely ever used in PvE takes on a whole new life in PvP....read spells through the prism of pvp and its a whole new game for some classes....Blinds, disempowers, etc....marginally usefull spells sometimes become game changers in PvP. I'm not sure how it is here, but I can remember Rangers being one of the nastiest classes to have to deal with in the hands of a good player....Rangers are supposed to suck, right? Paladins? Not in pvp.

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The KEY is never to bitch. Never talk smack. The ones who do are usually pros and they know what they are getting themselves into. Blue civilians are urged to learn before saying ANYTHING to ANYONE. It's like hockey. You take your beating and give a good one yourself here and there people will respect you. You whine or bitch about it, you are marked. Show up with visible stitches and they will make a point of opening them back up for you.

I could go on.....Seriously, if you love EQ and have played for years and have gotten bored with the predictablity, but don't want to go someplace where everything has been changed around where it's not even EQ anymore, but you want a totally different way to play the game we love, RED may be your answer.

I haven't played Red since launch (17 shammy), but you nailed everything about the server that I enjoyed. Nice post. Almost makes me want to play there again despite the awful population. Hehe.

[Grahm]

Originally Posted by batkiller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't think EQ is very good as a PVP game. I would bet that the majority of the population is casters, it surely can't be much fun leveling a cleric or rogue or warrior or something, all by yourself with the occasional gankers making it even harder.

I would maybe play if it had a population of around 1000, and lower xp rate. But it seems no fun to me because there is nobody to fight with and almost everyone is in a guild which to me, is pretty chicken... It's hardly FFA when everyone is guilded, more like group vs group, guild vs guild.

I'm going to play GW2 anyway, that will be fun for PVP.

p.s. It also has too many nasty people. Right from the start I saw a guild called Holocaust and knew it wasn't for me.

didnt read rest of thread before this post, but is this dog really askin for a 1000 person server and lower xp rates.......obvious troll is obvious

[Seaweedpimp]

I see alot of people complaining about the population. I agree, pop is low compared to blue. But imagine if there were that many players on red. Every zone would be a bloodfest. It would take 5x longer to exp from 1-50 as it does now, unless you are really really good at "pvp".

I joined red right as it supposivly lost most of its pop. When i started there were allmost exactly the same numbers as im used to when i play now. I will agree, it does sound hard to level from ZIP on a pvp server, without knowing anyone, but you will make friends. Just like you did on blue, you will meet others in your low levels, create bonds, and lean toward a certain guild.

There are a few lower end guilds out there that do nothing but group up and exp, but dont expect them to come to the other side of the world to help you fight off a pk'er like they would in nihilum or my guild, founding fathers.

Its kind of silly to watch dozens upon dozens of players complain about the pop when they dont log in atleast 3x per week. If you want the pop to grow, start playing!

While the pop is low, you will find players that will enjoy interacting with you, and will help you. Nobody that plays wants any less players. Its not a stale world. But if it hit 40 pop every day primetime it would kind of suck.

If we could just get 175 playes on, at prime times, every day, i promise you will have 100x the fun you would on blue. (unless you are an extremely casual player, not alot of playtime etc)

Try it. Roll something that can solo up to 20 (not that you will have too, but the low end pop is definately smaller than the mid-high end levels). In the time you get from 1-20 (definately easier than i had it 2 months ago leveling up with the new exp bonus that scales thru 1 - 50) you will hopefully meet a few players you enjoy playing with,have the same playtime etc, and you can enjoy this server like i have.

[azxten]

There were two main problems on R99. I leveled up to 40 and was part of first dragon kill. Haven't played since. These problems go hand in hand.

First, the population is too low to support diverse playerbase. On classic PvP servers there was anti-PK guilds, PK guilds, raid guilds, etc. You could actually hang out in zones without it being a constant PvP battle. Less players usually means you're desperate for some PvP so almost all interactions result in PvP instead of it being an occasional highlight, which is why I played PvP on live.

Second, the players that did play on R99 were generally huge assholes. From complete loot whores to the douchy people posting screen shots of every kill on the forums. There were very few people weren't incredibly greedy over loot or complete assholes over PvP when it did happen.

It gets old when every item drop turns into a major drama fest among groups/guilds and every fight turns into "YOU SHOULD KILL YOURSELF YOU SUCK AT PVP LOLOLOL" or "FAGGOT JUMPING ME WHEN I HAD NO MANA, NO SKILLZ LOLOLOLOL"

Basically the R99 community destroyed itself with its attitude. Had the players been more casual and relaxed I think the server could have done much better.

I think really the most "hardcore" PvPers who enjoy the shit talking, corpse camping, etc.. of which I have to admit I was one.. basically crushed the will of those more casual players who ended up in the crossfire sometimes.

I remember in Oasis around level 14 there was some Holocaust in the zone who were corpse camping some random newbs who weren't even guilded. It was like 6 Holocaust level 14-18 corpse camping 2 level 12 players who weren't even friends. All of this in the name of "zone control." Well, guess what? Mr. Bluebie isn't going to leave his favorite leveling zone because you have "zone control." He's going to get bored and leave the server.

R99 is what the current players made of it, a pile of shit.

Oh I didn't answer the question.. it would take at least 300+ on at prime time, and a significant attitude change among the player base. I've literally NEVER in my life seen such a horrible group of assholes on an MMO server.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

Originally Posted by HarrisonIsStillPosting [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bans for players caught exploiting content, mechanics, etc.

Zero legitimacy on Red99, like P99. The guild on top cheats to high hell and nothing is ever done about with exception to 2boxing, the only thing you can ever get banned for.