Mob Camping Rules

[Hitchens]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hitchens is arguing that consent is implied by logging the character.

That's a fair assessment. The position is based in the following sections of the rules:

1. Going forward, if you intend to hold or claim a camp, your group must retain presence at that camp.

4. In order to hold a camp, the player or group must be able to demonstrate the ability to hold the camp without further help.

To me, this is applicable to the situation. To others their interpretation of the rules are applicable as well. In the end only the GMs can decide.

[falkun]

By logging to loot an item on an alt, you may have an argument the player is no longer the owner of the camp. However, whatever mobs they have already killed at the camp belong to the person/group that obtained exp.

Camp ownership and loot rights are two separate issues.

[Hitchens]

Understood, but what if the alt cannot kill the mob that dropped the loot? Is the alt entitled to the loot?

Interesting discussion either way.

[Extunarian]

So if this server ever implements the 'hand items to mobs, mob drops those items on death' mechanic, does that mean it would be a sanctioned 100% safe way to transfer items? Give to mob, kill mob, log alt to loot?

I still don't see how it is different than dropping items on the ground. It is a risk you choose to take by not communicating with those around you, or having a friend help, or finding a safer spot, etc. And therefore shouldn't be something you can petition over.

But hey, it's obviously a gray area and up to guides to decide if they want to help, if this situation were to actually arise.

[muggro]

Seems pretty clear to me. If you kill a mob you have rights to it. Its your choice to decide who gets to loot even if it's your level 1 alt that you have to log out to switch to. However you have to maintain a prescence to hold the camp itself. So if you log to your alt to loot anybody wanting to claim the camp is within their rights to do so.

[Hitchens]

^saved

Edit: argh, post ruined. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Edit2: Ele is not to be trifled with.

[vinx]

the alt doesnt need to show the ability to kill the mob (its alrdy dead)

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Camp ownership and loot rights are two separate issues.

and now you guys are trying a different angle that this is somehow = dropping bags for a transfer

you all know you didnt kill it
quit being greedy fucks and stop lawyering so you feel better about yourself when you ninja the loot

[Danyelle]

Wow

[Hitchens]

Originally Posted by vinx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the alt doesnt need to show the ability to kill the mob (its alrdy dead)

and now you guys are trying a different angle that this is somehow = dropping bags for a transfer

you all know you didnt kill it
quit being greedy fucks and stop lawyering so you feel better about yourself when you ninja the loot

Comparison to dropping bags for a transfer was made on page two. This is page seven.

[vinx]

page 6 also if you been paying attn

point is: this is a corpse, with loot. in a camp
the two have seperate rules..the situation in question is about a corpse, not a camp or transfering items (you cant transfer what you dont have, you need to loot it first)

which makes this a loot issue
and in the rules, you cant loot a corpse you didnt kill without consent
that would make it ninja looting