new rules terrible

[Greegon]

Im not sure what's so bad about this rules guys.. basically its saying, you can stun/root/snare a bard while hes kiting. But you can't train specs on a lvl 12 group, or, say, fear a frog in lower guk while its being engaged to bring 12 more mobs in. Rather, you would just have to nuke the player and hope the mob doesnt get kill so you get some plats. right..? In any case I dont get why all of you guys are training CT death touch, sounds kind of lame :/ Fight with yer weps and magic maybe?

[Harrison]

Exploiters mad they can't exploit anymore.

This is new stuff people.

[heartbrand]

One, a train is not an exploit. Two, exploiters still exploiting without punishment hence complaint.

[Gongshow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEaX4...e_gdata_player

[Envious]

Gotta pick your analogies better Null!

[Diggles]

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[loserofgame]

"This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list."

I'm only going to do this once, but I couldn't resist.

It felt good.

[Silentone]

Here is a thought to all you hardcore red guys. why not make raid zones like VP on blue. No fuckin rules have at it until you turn BLUE and then you will come to your own rules which can be governed by guild officers. seems the pvp server has more rules then the blue server, geezus.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Silentone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is a thought to all you hardcore red guys. why not make raid zones like VP on blue. No fuckin rules have at it until you turn BLUE and then you will come to your own rules which can be governed by guild officers. seems the pvp server has more rules then the blue server, geezus.

Many of us have requested this, but you see there are two counter philosophies, that of Holocaust and that of Nihilum. Holocaust came to this server to PVP. They wanted to engage people, grief them, kill people, screenshot it, ForumQuest, win, etc. Nihilum came here to get the loots and kills they can't get on Blue in PVE because of the poopsocking. They don't really care about PVP and only engage in it when they need to in order to obtain PVE loots. Holocaust agrees with your statement and thinks these rules are too subjective and ultimately impossible to enforce fairly. Nihilum sees that chaos as a threat to their ability to farm the loots they came here for, they didn't come here to PVP and engage in multiple hour long zone struggles, they came to get those kills, so they want rules which will allow and enable them to do so. The GM's seem to take the Nihilum approach for their rules.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many of us have requested this, but you see there are two counter philosophies, that of Holocaust and that of Nihilum. Holocaust came to this server to PVP. They wanted to engage people, grief them, kill people, screenshot it, ForumQuest, win, etc. Nihilum came here to get the loots and kills they can't get on Blue in PVE because of the poopsocking. They don't really care about PVP and only engage in it when they need to in order to obtain PVE loots. Holocaust agrees with your statement and thinks these rules are too subjective and ultimately impossible to enforce fairly. Nihilum sees that chaos as a threat to their ability to farm the loots they came here for, they didn't come here to PVP and engage in multiple hour long zone struggles, they came to get those kills, so they want rules which will allow and enable them to do so. The GM's seem to take the Nihilum approach for their rules.

The problem is that when you want to "grief them, kill people, screenshot it, ForumQuest, win, etc" Holocaust wants to use ANYTHING and EVERYTHING they can to "win". Even if that means...fearing engaged mobs,training, Z-axis exploit, zone plugging, ganking and lying about PVP kills.

"for the win"

lol.