Shaman Epic Skippable parts?

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by Zeonick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So there is no faction requirement to do the wolf turn in? It only starts at the pages that you have to worry about whether or not you have enough faction? Sorry for all the questions man! You're so helpful though!

Haha thanks mang!

I should have clarified before - proper faction is required for every step of the epic (with the exception of Bondl since he is the start point for the epic). When you complete each step in the epic it gives you enough of a faction boost to either activate dialogue or the ability to turn in your reward from the previous step (ex: handing in gems from previous steps to the next quest NPC). AFAIK it will not let you leap frog beyond that point by virtue of having insufficient faction to hand in/start new dialogue.

The only points where this really matters are when you receive an item of value (say.... Shield of Falsehood or Black Fur Boots, Epic). At any other point all you're doing is padding your faction to progress through the story. While the story may be immersive you may have a problem mobilizing groups of people literally in the corners of Norrath (hole, com).

Tl;dr I was suggesting doing your epic to the point where you can collect the best item (see: black fur boots), after that it's like a large gap until maxed as there are no items of value you can unlock till the final fight that will net you cash or slot upgrades. Doing it properly to the boots is a guarantee you will have sufficient faction for pelt turn in and subsequent book dialogue.

Sorry if I've worded it poorly - I post using my BlackBerry

[Zeonick]

Oooooh ok cool. I have done all the way through the test of patience now (got my shield of falsehood) so I should be ok to kill the old dire wolf and turn in his pelt right? And then I just need faction to be able to TURN IN the pages?

[DrKvothe]

Just a heads up, the total time to port to NK, kill the two guys in rathe mountains and turn in at WK is only like 20-30 min tops. So whatever you're doing, whenever you need a break just grab a port to NK, vendor at druids or centaurs or aviaks, do envy/woe/marr, then gate back to wherever you were hunting. If you spread it out across multiple play sessions, no need to twiddle your thumbs.

[DrKvothe]

That's a great reason to get your rep up high enough to do CoM turnins by 44 or so at the latest. Been in CoM since I hit 46, and I'm now halfway to 48. I've filled 2 books (including the wasted one I mentioned previously), and have another mostly filled. Cash and exp are solid, and when I couldn't get into stables group they let me loot a student page rot anways.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by DrKvothe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a great reason to get your rep up high enough to do CoM turnins by 44 or so at the latest. Been in CoM since I hit 46, and I'm now halfway to 48. I've filled 2 books (including the wasted one I mentioned previously), and have another mostly filled. Cash and exp are solid, and when I couldn't get into stables group they let me loot a student page rot anways.

I was warned to do that as well and instead opted for duoing (though I still enjoyed myself) outside KC till like 51.

12 hours of grinding epic faction versus 3 if you choose to do CoM books seems like a fairly poor choice in hindsight.

[Zeonick]

Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was warned to do that as well and instead opted for duoing (though I still enjoyed myself) outside KC till like 51.

12 hours of grinding epic faction versus 3 if you choose to do CoM books seems like a fairly poor choice in hindsight.

Yeah i'm going to suck it up and just get my faction up high enough. I like grouping in CoM and i'm at the perfect level. I could max my faction while leveling towards 50.. sounds like the smart choice.

I did a few bondls last night with a druid, but it gets pricey.. I usually tip 30-40pp per port so it added up fast. I should just make some more money making sow pots I guess.

Also as far as he woe/envy taking 20-30 mins, yeah I guess I could see that. The only thing that really held me up was finding the wandering spirit every time. I would just stand at the loc listed on wiki and wait for it to stroll by. Is there a better option?

[Zeonick]

Here's an update, I started doing woe/envy over and over and just bound in RM by the paladin for quick gates. I did the turn in a total of 4 times including my initial turn in for the story line and I am now at kindly when I con the spirit.

Does this mean I have high enough faction now to turn in a set of CoM papers? I still have to do the black dire part also but I'm not sure if I will be able to get a kill team for that or not, but if I can get going on turning in CoM papers in the mean time that would be awesome!

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by Zeonick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's an update, I started doing woe/envy over and over and just bound in RM by the paladin for quick gates. I did the turn in a total of 4 times including my initial turn in for the story line and I am now at kindly when I con the spirit.

Does this mean I have high enough faction now to turn in a set of CoM papers? I still have to do the black dire part also but I'm not sure if I will be able to get a kill team for that or not, but if I can get going on turning in CoM papers in the mean time that would be awesome!

Yes - I believe the faction to activate the book dialogue (and therefore the page turn ins) is somewhere in the amiable range so you've likely surpassed it at kindly. The black dire part is directly before the CoM part and so by extension you should have faction for that as well.

Good luck with your black dire kill.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by Zeonick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah i'm going to suck it up and just get my faction up high enough. I like grouping in CoM and i'm at the perfect level. I could max my faction while leveling towards 50.. sounds like the smart choice.

I did a few bondls last night with a druid, but it gets pricey.. I usually tip 30-40pp per port so it added up fast. I should just make some more money making sow pots I guess.

Also as far as he woe/envy taking 20-30 mins, yeah I guess I could see that. The only thing that really held me up was finding the wandering spirit every time. I would just stand at the loc listed on wiki and wait for it to stroll by. Is there a better option?

He very frequently wisps by that spot and is large enough to be seen from quite far away. Shouldn't really have a hard time finding him as the wiki suggests.

[thieros]

just thought id chip in my experience:

21 Bondl Turnins: base faction to kindly (2-3 hours)
1 CoM Complete reports: Kindly
1 Ghiosk diaries Turn in: Warmly
4 CoM Complete Reports: Warmly
1 Ghiosk diaries Turn in: Warmly
1 CoM Report: Max Faction

All said and done, took a few days to grind the CoM portion as im unable to solo on shaman in CoM yet so was only available for leaching (which was highly contested by other shamans in zone at the time, though we were all quite civil and shared with one another)