Shaman Epic Skippable parts? - Page 6

Zeonick · #51 11-04-2013, 09:56 PM

Ugh... 5-6 woe turn ins just to be able to turn in the com books? Damn, thats at a minimum 10-12 hours of gameplay, and I get around 3 hours to play each week... I think I may need to wait on my epic for for awhile.

That.. Or would binding at the pots and doing bondl turn ins be faster? Seems like woe is the slowest way to do it with all that running and 2 hour respawns.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums · #52 11-04-2013, 10:36 PM

The problem with breaking this quest into smaller pieces is that you've essentially called into question what your faction actually is. I know - I did just that and failed on a number of turn ins costing me extra plat and time for ports and running.

If I could redo it over again I would complete the epic up to and including the dire wolf pelt (that includes NOT doing multiple Bondle/woe,envy,marr turn ins etc...). Complete the wolf turn in then repeat any step you wish until max faction. This ensures that you've passed any uncertainty about where you need to be. There is no way to tell whether you're low amiable/high amiable or anywhere else on the spectrum so your best guarantee is to just 0 off the faction and go from there.

My 2cp

Zeonick · #53 11-04-2013, 11:58 PM

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The problem with breaking this quest into smaller pieces is that you've essentially called into question what your faction actually is. I know - I did just that and failed on a number of turn ins costing me extra plat and time for ports and running.

If I could redo it over again I would complete the epic up to and including the dire wolf pelt (that includes NOT doing multiple Bondle/woe,envy,marr turn ins etc...). Complete the wolf turn in then repeat any step you wish until max faction. This ensures that you've passed any uncertainty about where you need to be. There is no way to tell whether you're low amiable/high amiable or anywhere else on the spectrum so your best guarantee is to just 0 off the faction and go from there.

My 2cp

So there is no faction requirement to do the wolf turn in? It only starts at the pages that you have to worry about whether or not you have enough faction? Sorry for all the questions man! You're so helpful though!

Yumyums Inmahtumtums · #54 11-05-2013, 12:24 AM

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So there is no faction requirement to do the wolf turn in? It only starts at the pages that you have to worry about whether or not you have enough faction? Sorry for all the questions man! You're so helpful though!

Haha thanks mang!

I should have clarified before - proper faction is required for every step of the epic (with the exception of Bondl since he is the start point for the epic). When you complete each step in the epic it gives you enough of a faction boost to either activate dialogue or the ability to turn in your reward from the previous step (ex: handing in gems from previous steps to the next quest NPC). AFAIK it will not let you leap frog beyond that point by virtue of having insufficient faction to hand in/start new dialogue.

The only points where this really matters are when you receive an item of value (say.... Shield of Falsehood or Black Fur Boots, Epic). At any other point all you're doing is padding your faction to progress through the story. While the story may be immersive you may have a problem mobilizing groups of people literally in the corners of Norrath (hole, com).

Tl;dr I was suggesting doing your epic to the point where you can collect the best item (see: black fur boots), after that it's like a large gap until maxed as there are no items of value you can unlock till the final fight that will net you cash or slot upgrades. Doing it properly to the boots is a guarantee you will have sufficient faction for pelt turn in and subsequent book dialogue.

Sorry if I've worded it poorly - I post using my BlackBerry

Zeonick · #55 11-05-2013, 01:13 AM

Oooooh ok cool. I have done all the way through the test of patience now (got my shield of falsehood) so I should be ok to kill the old dire wolf and turn in his pelt right? And then I just need faction to be able to TURN IN the pages?

Zeonick · #56 11-05-2013, 01:15 AM

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Ugh... 5-6 woe turn ins just to be able to turn in the com books? Damn, thats at a minimum 10-12 hours of gameplay, and I get around 3 hours to play each week... I think I may need to wait on my epic for for awhile.

That.. Or would binding at the pots and doing bondl turn ins be faster? Seems like woe is the slowest way to do it with all that running and 2 hour respawns.

And ive just researched this second option a bit and its supposedly impossible to bind at the pots anymore.

DrKvothe · #57 11-05-2013, 03:43 AM

Just a heads up, the total time to port to NK, kill the two guys in rathe mountains and turn in at WK is only like 20-30 min tops. So whatever you're doing, whenever you need a break just grab a port to NK, vendor at druids or centaurs or aviaks, do envy/woe/marr, then gate back to wherever you were hunting. If you spread it out across multiple play sessions, no need to twiddle your thumbs.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums · #58 11-05-2013, 09:38 AM

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And ive just researched this second option a bit and its supposedly impossible to bind at the pots anymore.

If you want to repeat the Bondl stage until maxed or until you've reached an arbitrary faction point then bind yourself next to Bondl and have a druid port you every 6 mins to BB. If you time iit right you can also squeeze in Rathe Mountains and NK in there.

I hired druids for mine since I heard collecting pages from minimum CoM book turn in to max faction can take 12 or more hours. Far more time than wi was willing to spend somewhere I'm not either making money or getting xp.

DrKvothe · #59 11-05-2013, 01:50 PM

That's a great reason to get your rep up high enough to do CoM turnins by 44 or so at the latest. Been in CoM since I hit 46, and I'm now halfway to 48. I've filled 2 books (including the wasted one I mentioned previously), and have another mostly filled. Cash and exp are solid, and when I couldn't get into stables group they let me loot a student page rot anways.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums · #60 11-05-2013, 03:07 PM

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That's a great reason to get your rep up high enough to do CoM turnins by 44 or so at the latest. Been in CoM since I hit 46, and I'm now halfway to 48. I've filled 2 books (including the wasted one I mentioned previously), and have another mostly filled. Cash and exp are solid, and when I couldn't get into stables group they let me loot a student page rot anways.

I was warned to do that as well and instead opted for duoing (though I still enjoyed myself) outside KC till like 51.

12 hours of grinding epic faction versus 3 if you choose to do CoM books seems like a fairly poor choice in hindsight.