Proposal to the TMO leadership

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Xanthias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Two points:
Because last I checked DA and TMO weren't two separate guilds raiding together, but all under one tag after they merged...

If TMO and DA could take down the targets on their own separately, why would they need to merge? Why not just work together and form a similar partnership?

You guys went down the less advantageous road by your own choice. Now you see how flexible a partnership could have been. Why are we expected to be seen as one guild just because that's the route TMO and DA took?

[CallnOutTheNubs]

If VD wants into the rotation they should be enough said.

TMO dont make the fucking rules around here there just butt hurt scared they will lose more targets.

I dont see nothing wrong with a 3 guild rotation all guilds have proven themselfs.

stop acting like IB-VD should be treated like 1 guild THERE NOT.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Xanthias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look at this from the TMO perspective a minute with the previous agreement... two guilds work together share loot on everything cept one dragon vs one guild... why should the two guilds be treated individually with one mob when they share all the rest?

Now I'm going to use logic here with a few Yes/No Questions

VD and IB work together and share loot on most raid encounters outside of VP - Yes

Can VD do these encounters on their own without assistance - Yes (see weekend when nothing was contested when VP opened)

Does VD consistently do these encounters solo when they are contested - No

It isn't a matter of TMO not thinking VD can do this stuff solo, hell we know you can, it is a matter that VD doesn't want to/desire to do it solo.

Trak solo with the spawn not being contested is COMPLETELY different than having to engage within a minute of it spawning. Anyone who says different is lying or trying to sell you something.

If VD wants to be a part of a rotation for Trak, they need to stand on their own with other raid encounters rather than fighting alongside IB.

Show you can do the fast engage and fight solo and earn your spot.

My 2cp.

Did you read my post Xanthias? Even if you are right, its hard to imagine that you guys aren't going to be doing more work for less raid mobs without the rotation. Now maybe you guys LIKE camping out at poop mountain . . . .

[Shiftin]

Why do you WANT to go back to having to engage a mob that spawns every 3 days within 1 minute? How many trak BPs do you need in your bank? Do you really not remember how awful camping there every 2 days and 6 hours was?

I just genuinely don't understand why youre setting the arbitrary bar at proving themselves using a horrible dynamic no one wants to exist as a benchmark. And then, your officers are saying if/when they do out mobilize you to your own traks, they will retaliate vs IB?

We do quite a few raids separately btw. Sky, epics, quite a few kunark dragons, Draco,

[Fazlazen]

Not much to do on the main anyways.

[quido]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not much to do on the main anyways.

I hear that!

Man I sure would feel differently about this all if IB and VD didn't act as a single guild 95% of the time on non-rotation targets! It makes it kind of hard for someone who is really stupid (such as myself) to distinguish.

IB: pull your pet guild off of us on rotation targets or you're gonna be there with us.

[relapsee69]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IB: pull your pet guild off of us on rotation targets or you're gonna be there with us.

So Vd needs to 'earn' their way into a rotation, but you (Tmo) are pissed off now you see VD is gonna earn their spot?

[quido]

My grudge is that you are trying to shirk a fair rotation deal with your retarded alliance and half-standards.

VD, you are a bunch of pathetic spineless nincompoops for not contesting IB's Trakanons also. Grow a pair.

Relapsee, you guys can cry about the reality of it if you want. It's not going to change.

In the words of the great Maultriss of Vesica Dei - "I am not a doormat!"

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

VD, you are a bunch of pathetic spineless nincompoops for not contesting IB's Trakanons also.

Or, maybe that's not how a partnership works.

[Autotune]

why would vd compete against their other half? lol