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Old 02-01-2012, 03:34 PM
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Well, the clearest indicator of resist unbalance is the class distribution. It's pretty obvious with how drastic the difference in melee vs caster population is.
leveling melee requires work , patience and friends

pvping on melee requires skill , which most players on red do not have , hence why druid is #1 ( the easiest class to play ) Which attracts the biggest idiots
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Old 02-01-2012, 04:58 PM
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#1 thing server needs DRUIDS #2 BALLS #3 /global ooc or starwars time for alot us.
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:01 PM
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Nizzarr best geared druid on server agrees resists are fucked - maybe patch will help, hopefully MR is addressed.

Root/snare/stun/blind were not balanced for eq pvp, there are no DR'S and they just take any skill or fun out of the control of the players. This is why they made them almost never land unless you were debuffed/dispelled.
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:17 PM
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I have pvp'd since the beginning of the box, and have not judged resists since it took awhile to gear up. After a few months on the box, I get consistently rooted with 150+ mr, and ice comet/other nukes land almost 100% of dmg all the time.

Every pvp fight I'm in has casters spamming root/snare until they land, unless they are a wizard/shaman with I win buttons.

It's exactly like most veteran pvp'ers feared - zerg cc spam pvp with little skill needed. I can understand that offensive spells should be landing for big numbers, but to have MR also count for little is pretty boring.

I really think Null didn't play pvp back in the day - or didn't understand it, having cc spells like snare/root land consistently, like they are removes any amount of balance to the game.

I won't say that this is the main reason that the server population blows cocks, I would say the biggest part is lack of people and amount of time needed on the PVE portion - but to have nothing to look forward to once you finish the grind definitely needs to be examined if this is a long term project.
I don't know what the logic was behind making it even harder on melees. It'd be one thing if there were drastically increased partial resists, but it doesn't seem like that's the case.

Old world red was always tilted in favor of casters. If anything, this should be pushed in the OPPOSITE direction - not giving casters an even bigger advantage. Note that I haven't played on the server enough to judge this for myself, so I'm taking what you posted at face value.


The resist system should be adjusted. Exp rate should be increased especially early. And global channels should be on.

If those three things ever happen, then I guarantee that the server would jump in population and thrive. =/
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:21 PM
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[Wed Feb 01 14:06:49 2012] You resist the Ensnare spell!
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:50 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:52 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:53 2012] You resist the Ensnaring Roots spell!
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:54 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:56 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:57 2012] You resist the Ensnaring Roots spell!
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:58 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:59 2012] You resist the Ensnaring Roots spell!
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:00 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:02 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:04 2012] Caster tells the group, 'lmao'
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:04 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:06 2012] You resist the Ensnaring Roots spell!
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:06 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:07 2012] The spirit of wolf leaves you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:07 2012] Your feet become entwined. You have taken 48 points of damage.


This is with 83mr
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:24 PM
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[Wed Feb 01 14:06:49 2012] You resist the Ensnare spell!
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:50 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:52 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:53 2012] You resist the Ensnaring Roots spell!
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:54 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:56 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:57 2012] You resist the Ensnaring Roots spell!
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:58 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:06:59 2012] You resist the Ensnaring Roots spell!
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:00 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:02 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:04 2012] Caster tells the group, 'lmao'
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:04 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:06 2012] You resist the Ensnaring Roots spell!
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:06 2012] Nordahl is behind you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:07 2012] The spirit of wolf leaves you.
[Wed Feb 01 14:07:07 2012] Your feet become entwined. You have taken 48 points of damage.


This is with 83mr
statistics much
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:29 PM
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Didn't Null actually post the resist curve at some point?

We should be looking at that tbh.


Compare it against the average/reasonable resist, the highest obtainable, etc., and come up with specific numbers.
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:33 PM
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:39 PM
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Didn't Null actually post the resist curve at some point?

We should be looking at that tbh.


Compare it against the average/reasonable resist, the highest obtainable, etc., and come up with specific numbers.
Yea but its a patch behind, right now 150MR gets you about an 82% resist rate. The big issue at the moment are the root nets, because it doesn't matter how low of a chance root has to land, its going to land with enough net charges. I am not convinced that roots with a cast time are an issue, we will see though.

Once that is fixed (I believe in the next patch) ill wait a week and if shits still bad then we can talk about increasing the resist rates on CC stuff.
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:45 PM
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Yes my whole post was refering to the 82% chance, I'm basically stacking all MR gear and still able to be rooted 1/5 for insta gib in grp pvp, so lame haha.
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