An Open Letter To Aruden

[pickled_heretic]

third page down:

http://www.coondawgs.com/

a website devoted to racoon hunting enthusiasts. clearly coon is less controversial than holocaust.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

third page down:

sorry, not page, i meant link. it's on the first page for searching for "coon."

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"The Holocaust" is not a racial slur in any shape form or fashion, but it is commonly accepted that a guild name specifically referring to the Judeocide is unquestionably inappropriate.

How do you know this?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"The Holocaust" is not a racial slur in any shape form or fashion, but it is commonly accepted that a guild name specifically referring to the Judeocide is unquestionably inappropriate. The only issue is whether "Holocaust" and "The Holocaust" are the same. your comparison is invalid.

There have been many holocausts aside from that of the Jews. Holocaust should not and does not only apply to the Jewish people.

The Holocaust is referenced to the Jewish people because that is what they wished to call it.

One is a specific name given to an event, the other is a generic word with a generic definition.

The Super Bowl does not equal super bowl. One has a specific meaning, the other could refer to a bowl that has super powers, or an array of other meanings.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you know this?

nilbog said as such. you're welcome to open that line of discussion, but you would be the first. Assuming that "The Holocaust" and "Judeocide" are perfect synonyms, do you really think it's appropriate to name an everquest guild after it?

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There have been many holocausts aside from that of the Jews. Holocaust should not and does not only apply to the Jewish people.

The Holocaust is referenced to the Jewish people because that is what they wished to call it.

One is a specific name given to an event, the other is a generic word with a generic definition.

The Super Bowl does not equal super bowl. One has a specific meaning, the other could refer to a bowl that has super powers, or an array of other meanings.

nobody has said anything to convince me that judeocide isn't the most commonly accepted interpretation of the word. the myriad other reasons are inconsequential, if the most common, or fairly common meaning is to refer to the judeocide, then it's inappropriate, just as the word coon.

[Odonk]

starting to get the feeling that pickled heretic really couldnt give 2 fucks less about the OP. instead he is having to much fun trolling. its the same fucking arguement over and over and over and over. i mean, does it really take 3 threads to discuss this? how many times do the GMs have to ignore you before you get the hint? Let me summarize for you, if it hasnt been changed yet, it isnt going to be. put preparation H on your asshole to stop the pain and move on, or better yet contact a civil rights group and let them laugh at the ludicrousness that your presenting... be sure to tell them your whole argument is based on google search.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There have been many holocausts aside from that of the Jews. Holocaust should not and does not only apply to the Jewish people.

The Holocaust is referenced to the Jewish people because that is what they wished to call it.

One is a specific name given to an event, the other is a generic word with a generic definition.

The Super Bowl does not equal super bowl. One has a specific meaning, the other could refer to a bowl that has super powers, or an array of other meanings.

nothing about the particle "The" conveys any meaning (indeed, particles never convey meaning), it is purely there for syntax. "Super Bowl" means the same as "The Super Bowl" depending on the context.

See here: "A Super Bowl winner" is clearly referring to "The Super Bowl," while "a super bowl winner" could refer to some other super bowl winner, or someone who is really good at winning bowls.

"Holocaust" the guild name is capitalized. Without other context, "Holocaust" capitalized nearly always refers to the Judeocide. See this chicago style guide, ironically posted by Humerox:

The Chicago Manual of Style:

In current usage, the referent of a lowercased "holocaust" is rarely the Nazi murders, while the core referent of a capitalized "Holocaust" is almost invariably the Judeocide of the Nazi camps.

Now, answer this: Is the guild name capitalized?

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nilbog said as such. you're welcome to open that line of discussion, but you would be the first. Assuming that "The Holocaust" and "Judeocide" are perfect synonyms, do you really think it's appropriate to name an everquest guild after it?

If nilbog has chatlogs of them actually making it for that purpose, then great.... get rid of it. From what I understand it is the opposite: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...42&postcount=4

The guild's name is Holocaust, not The Holocaust. Why are you changing the guild's name to make your argument? Trollocaust.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nobody has said anything to convince me that judeocide isn't the most commonly accepted interpretation of the word. the myriad other reasons are inconsequential, if the most common, or fairly common meaning is to refer to the judeocide, then it's inappropriate, just as the word coon.

Well by your own admittance, the word holocaust is not inappropriate.

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Google, define holocaust - The google abides.

hol·o·caust/ˈhäləˌkôst/

Noun:

1) Destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, esp. caused by fire or nuclear war: "a nuclear holocaust".

2) The mass murder of Jews under the German Nazi regime during the period 1941–45.



Until 2 becomes 1 and 1 becomes 2, stfu.

Sorry, I thought you would have looked at the word and seen that the #1

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

most commonly accepted interpretation

of holocaust not that of the Jewish holocaust. My mistake.