Saw an interesting conversation in EC about Druids. - Page 6

Flash · #1 11-20-2011, 04:34 AM

Whatever, you can do what you want Diggles, but the evidence and the numbers support my claims and my arguments. That and Rangers have the added advantage of not relying on gear nearly as much as a Warrior or Monk.

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GETINMYVAN · #2 11-20-2011, 04:41 AM

Do believe you're mistaken bro.

Rangers, at least as far as I remember, didn't start out dpsing even Warriors until around Luclin, and even then it required the best gear available to them. The guild I was in had 1 raiding Ranger and we only brought him along for whatever that disc was they had that made them basically unkillable for 15 or so seconds to give our Warrior enough time to build up aggro.

I could be wrong, but this is what I remember raiding Classic/Kunark/Velious on Veeshan server.

Did some research and yeah, Rangers didn't even start popping up on the DPS charts until Endless Quiver+Trueshot, and as far as I know it was a *long* time before they ever even came close to Rogues, so in this version of the game, Rangers are still pretty much shit for DPS. Even in the utility department they don't have much going for them, and there are other classes that can do it much better than they can.

Diggles · #3 11-20-2011, 04:36 AM

you're honestly one of the stupidest people i have met on these forums if you think Rangers are the best dps.

Like, you make Visage look like a rocket scientist. I mained a ranger on Live and I dont even believe you.

Flash · #4 11-20-2011, 04:41 AM

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you're honestly one of the stupidest people i have met on these forums if you think Rangers are the best dps.

Like, you make Visage look like a rocket scientist. I mained a ranger on Live and I dont even believe you.

I never gave much credit to your intelligence, so that doesn't surprise me. But if you disagree that Rangers are one of the best damage dealers in the game, you are beyond stupid.

Slave · #5 11-20-2011, 04:40 AM

From 45-60, druids simply do not have a place in exp groups.

Did you see what the guy said about wizards? Now imagine a really crappy wizard that does much less than that.

Did you see what I said about healing? 1 minute of experience for 10 minutes of meditation does not equal an imperfect experience group. It equals a group wipe or a group leaving.

Diggles · #6 11-20-2011, 04:41 AM

You legitimately believe this?

Flash · #7 11-20-2011, 04:49 AM

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You legitimately believe this?

He sees reason and has done the research. More than I can say for you.

You know what, I'm just gonna move to Red99. Seeya guys, look for Foxhound somewhere in EC.

Diggles · #8 11-20-2011, 04:52 AM

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He sees reason and has done the research. More than I can say for you.

You know what, I'm just gonna move to Red99. Seeya guys, look for Foxhound somewhere in EC.

Thank the Gods, stick to people with your level of intelligence.

Flash · #9 11-20-2011, 04:53 AM

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Thank the Gods, stick to people with your level of intelligence.

So far this server seems to have a higher maturity level then P99's community. Rogean did good here.

socialist · #10 11-20-2011, 10:58 AM

Until AAs, there's nothing that makes rangers great DPS. They melee like a rogue who doesn't backstab, and their nukes are really weak and they can't keep up casting them with any kind of regularity in a long fight or chain-pull scenario. There exist no mechanics or ranger-only items that would somehow make them top DPS. They're around warrior DPS as warrior crits pretty much equal the ranger's spell damage. In Kunark they get access to a 2hb that's like 5% better to the comparable weapons available to other melee classes, but this is only relevant until epics. By this time, all the pure melees have disciplines that blow a ranger out of the water and can generally be saved for the important fights. Rangers then get trueshot disc in Velious, but this isn't that much of a DPS boost, rather it allows them to do DPS on par with their melee output but from long range. Ranger DPS is extremely average.