Item recharging is an exploit of game mechanics - Page 6

Brinkman · #1 11-07-2011, 05:44 PM

Quote from alla on Staff of forbidden Rites page.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=560

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As our guild obtained one of those, its given to the monk (me) during major raids incase of complete wipe out.I'm to feign, wait til camp is clear /q come back and rez a cleric with it.Quite effective and sure as hell beats a CR into hate or fear or places like kael or skyshrine.

Game Breaking. If you fail you deserve the 1 hour CR, 30 min rebuff and retry. Item recharging makes raiding trivial.

Samoht · #2 11-07-2011, 05:45 PM

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People can just farm 11ty billion DA Idols for all the effort it takes to get 2 of those earrings.

First Yael raid did this.

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The fact remains that if it was that game-breaking or overpowered, Verant/SoE would have moved to make the buyback prices to insane levels much earlier. Or made it so rechargeable items couldn't be sold to vendors. Or any variety of ways they could have fixed it.

Or they would have separate database IDs for the item for the amount of charges it had... oh wait.

Samoht · #3 11-07-2011, 05:49 PM

FT items are not that overpowered for Velius? Look at the helm and necklace again. That looks like shit that came out about a week before Luclin (it did).

Brinkman · #4 11-07-2011, 05:54 PM

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FT items are not that overpowered for Velius? Look at the helm and necklace again. That looks like shit that came out about a week before Luclin (it did).

Look man, I played on Povar, I was there When Bentos got the first ring server wide, this is not something you want to argue with me about. He got his ring in september 3 MONTHS before luclin, and the facemask was then named for him, and the other items dropped then as well.

Edit: Also, one can only assume these items were populated since Velious went live, and were only seen in september because it was the first time the quest was completed. Meaning they were in game since Velious release.

Shiftin · #5 11-07-2011, 06:00 PM

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FT items are not that overpowered for Velius? Look at the helm and necklace again. That looks like shit that came out about a week before Luclin (it did).

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From a dozekar tear reward, not even NTOV.

Vulak robe has FT III. 10th ring war takes a full raid to manage, after tons and tons of work to get to that point. Those 10th ring war rewards are absolutely in line with what they should be.

Samoht · #6 11-07-2011, 06:02 PM

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I'm not disputing it existed on classic. I'm drawing attention to the fact that it was fixed as quickly as possible & as soon as they became aware of it and is a glaring bug.

Four years is extremely fast, huh.

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Edit: Also, one can only assume these items were populated since Velious went live, and were only seen in september because it was the first time the quest was completed. Meaning they were in game since Velious release.

Good catch before letting it hit the fan. It might not have been implemented at the same time as Velius was released. I remember the Coldain rings being EXTREMELY buggy after the first few.

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Then the question is, why did they change the hoop here in P99?...don't tell me that guilds back in 99/00 didn't use the hoop like guilds have used it here? That's retarded if any of you think a P99 guild was the first to use the hoop in that manner.

Proof?

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Vulak robe has FT III. 10th ring war takes a full raid to manage, after tons and tons of work to get to that point. Those 10th ring war rewards are absolutely in line with what they should be.

Vulak definitely wasn't implemented during Velius. It was deemed too bugged to keep and then taken out. I can only assume that the rewards were then updated to make it pertinent when it was implemented and competing with Luclin bosses.

Shiftin · #7 11-07-2011, 06:13 PM

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Four years is extremely fast, huh.
Vulak definitely wasn't implemented during Velius. It was deemed too bugged to keep and then taken out. I can only assume that the rewards were then updated to make it pertinent when it was implemented and competing with Luclin bosses.

http://legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-08-29

Luclin went live December 4, 2001.

Samoht · #8 11-07-2011, 06:25 PM

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http://legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-08-29

I don't see any FT3 items on that link.

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You ask for proof about things that are so painfully obvious, that its painfully obvious you are simply trolling and trying to derail my thread.

I'm sorry, that's just not the way things work here. The onus is on the people demanding changes and insisting things aren't classic. Just like skorge has no proof that people used hoops before, you've brought no proof that items should not be rechargeable.

Face it: it's classic. It's not going anywhere.

Brinkman · #9 11-07-2011, 06:24 PM

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Proof?

You ask for proof about things that are so painfully obvious, that its painfully obvious you are simply trolling and trying to derail my thread.

I would reccomend everyone just ignore this guy and stay on subject.

Nirgon · #10 11-07-2011, 07:55 PM

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Four years is extremely fast, huh.

They knew about it day one and just "put it off" for 4 years. You sunk my battleship.

So what guild are you in friend and what item have you been recharging. Time for this thread to take a new direction imo.