Egg-shaped pumice, chipped bone rod.

[Darksinga]

1. No one is going to have 100 plat to blow on multiple pumices, most likely you will have around one, and you won't be able to even get one till around level 30 with you blowing all your money on spells, armor, etc...

2. I just don't get how GM's can make some ridiculous shit in game while not put other ridiculous shit in. For instance, SK Harm Touch refresh on death?

3. Why is fear/charm not in game for the benefit of CC classes yet SK's get a free refresh timer instead of waiting it out? I see major exploitation here. Kill Group A, die at your bind to fresh HT, go pwn Group B with the same Harm Touch... Umm?

4. Pure melees are going to receive it in the butt to a single earth elemental pet because they can't channel. Come on guys, you all have seen how earth pet root lasts 18-24 seconds, GG.

5. Solution: Make the pumice one charge, pillage enchantment, instant cast and lore. If a pet is on you, you can pell your root and maybe get away with some jboots and strafing.

6. This also adds more dynamic to DOT classes, remember these before you could have a million fukn pumices to pell all their dots?? Maybe druid/necro damage will be viable for once and you actually have to use STRATEGY to determine when you want to burn your pumice. Or hey maybe you actually have to mem the cast version of dispell instead of going to your 24 pumices in Bag 1,2, and 3???

7. Nullify Magic pumice is in fact more stupid because it has 5 charges, is super CHEAP, and you can have as MANY as you want. So let me get this straight, you guys would rather have a bard cast x10 nullify magics on you on the run rather than one pillage enchantment? Dumb much?

8. For the sake of Classic, let it be classic. Get rid of this "dynamic pvp system," let immy healing/bind rushing/corpse camping/etc etc be in the game because they were in on live and they added their OWN dynamic.

9. QQ Less, L2P Better.

[fiegi]

Originally Posted by Darksinga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. No one is going to have 100 plat to blow on multiple pumices, most likely you will have around one, and you won't be able to even get one till around level 30 with you blowing all your money on spells, armor, etc...

2. I just don't get how GM's can make some ridiculous shit in game while not put other ridiculous shit in. For instance, SK Harm Touch refresh on death?

3. Why is fear/charm not in game for the benefit of CC classes yet SK's get a free refresh timer instead of waiting it out? I see major exploitation here. Kill Group A, die at your bind to fresh HT, go pwn Group B with the same Harm Touch... Umm?

4. Pure melees are going to receive it in the butt to a single earth elemental pet because they can't channel. Come on guys, you all have seen how earth pet root lasts 18-24 seconds, GG.

5. Solution: Make the pumice one charge, pillage enchantment, instant cast and lore. If a pet is on you, you can pell your root and maybe get away with some jboots and strafing.

6. This also adds more dynamic to DOT classes, remember these before you could have a million fukn pumices to pell all their dots?? Maybe druid/necro damage will be viable for once and you actually have to use STRATEGY to determine when you want to burn your pumice. Or hey maybe you actually have to mem the cast version of dispell instead of going to your 24 pumices in Bag 1,2, and 3???

7. Nullify Magic pumice is in fact more stupid because it has 5 charges, is super CHEAP, and you can have as MANY as you want. So let me get this straight, you guys would rather have a bard cast x10 nullify magics on you on the run rather than one pillage enchantment? Dumb much?

8. For the sake of Classic, let it be classic. Get rid of this "dynamic pvp system," let immy healing/bind rushing/corpse camping/etc etc be in the game because they were in on live and they added their OWN dynamic.

9. QQ Less, L2P Better.

Sounds like your are QQ'in up a storm here. Practice what you preach and you might be taken serious son.

[Mardur]

Originally Posted by Darksinga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. No one is going to have 100 plat to blow on multiple pumices, most likely you will have around one, and you won't be able to even get one till around level 30 with you blowing all your money on spells, armor, etc...

Let's not limit our view of this issue to only the first week or two of launch.

2. I just don't get how GM's can make some ridiculous shit in game while not put other ridiculous shit in. For instance, SK Harm Touch refresh on death?

Insta-cast pumice cheapens every single PvP fight every time everywhere. You're not going to be guaranteed of a SK HT bind rushing you down every single time you engage in PvP. That said, I wouldn't mind making HT timer persist after death. No one's really arguing that so I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up.

3. Why is fear/charm not in game for the benefit of CC classes yet SK's get a free refresh timer instead of waiting it out? I see major exploitation here. Kill Group A, die at your bind to fresh HT, go pwn Group B with the same Harm Touch... Umm?

Hey man you can't make #3 just a rewording of #2, you're breaking the rules of ordered lists! See above.

4. Pure melees are going to receive it in the butt to a single earth elemental pet because they can't channel. Come on guys, you all have seen how earth pet root lasts 18-24 seconds, GG.

Get resists, play better, etc. There's solutions to this but no solution to the cheapness of insta-pumice.

5. Solution: Make the pumice one charge, pillage enchantment, instant cast and lore. If a pet is on you, you can pell your root and maybe get away with some jboots and strafing.

I don't care if egg shaped pumice is lore and 1 cast, but now we're entering the territory of completely altering items just for the hell of it. There's no point in putting a custom item in when you can just go camp golem wands.

6. This also adds more dynamic to DOT classes, remember these before you could have a million fukn pumices to pell all their dots?? Maybe druid/necro damage will be viable for once and you actually have to use STRATEGY to determine when you want to burn your pumice. Or hey maybe you actually have to mem the cast version of dispell instead of going to your 24 pumices in Bag 1,2, and 3???

This is where it gets interesting because you're starting to argue against your own stance on insta-pumice.

7. Nullify Magic pumice is in fact more stupid because it has 5 charges, is super CHEAP, and you can have as MANY as you want. So let me get this straight, you guys would rather have a bard cast x10 nullify magics on you on the run rather than one pillage enchantment? Dumb much?

Sure, because he just wasted at least half a minute doing that.

8. For the sake of Classic, let it be classic. Get rid of this "dynamic pvp system," let immy healing/bind rushing/corpse camping/etc etc be in the game because they were in on live and they added their OWN dynamic.

If you don't like the dynamic PvP system, there's a thread for that, and this one isn't it. Try to stay on topic with your inane rambling.

9. QQ Less, L2P Better.

Good advice.

[Sorath]

Originally Posted by Darksinga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. No one is going to have 100 plat to blow on multiple pumices, most likely you will have around one, and you won't be able to even get one till around level 30 with you blowing all your money on spells, armor, etc...

2. I just don't get how GM's can make some ridiculous shit in game while not put other ridiculous shit in. For instance, SK Harm Touch refresh on death?

3. Why is fear/charm not in game for the benefit of CC classes yet SK's get a free refresh timer instead of waiting it out? I see major exploitation here. Kill Group A, die at your bind to fresh HT, go pwn Group B with the same Harm Touch... Umm?

4. Pure melees are going to receive it in the butt to a single earth elemental pet because they can't channel. Come on guys, you all have seen how earth pet root lasts 18-24 seconds, GG.

5. Solution: Make the pumice one charge, pillage enchantment, instant cast and lore. If a pet is on you, you can pell your root and maybe get away with some jboots and strafing.

6. This also adds more dynamic to DOT classes, remember these before you could have a million fukn pumices to pell all their dots?? Maybe druid/necro damage will be viable for once and you actually have to use STRATEGY to determine when you want to burn your pumice. Or hey maybe you actually have to mem the cast version of dispell instead of going to your 24 pumices in Bag 1,2, and 3???

7. Nullify Magic pumice is in fact more stupid because it has 5 charges, is super CHEAP, and you can have as MANY as you want. So let me get this straight, you guys would rather have a bard cast x10 nullify magics on you on the run rather than one pillage enchantment? Dumb much?

8. For the sake of Classic, let it be classic. Get rid of this "dynamic pvp system," let immy healing/bind rushing/corpse camping/etc etc be in the game because they were in on live and they added their OWN dynamic.

9. QQ Less, L2P Better.

I have to agree 100% with Darksinga and anyone who does not agree disagree's and is unagreeable to my degree of agreeing.

IT SEEMS THERE ARE UNKNOWN FORCES AT WORK HERE BENDING THE WILL OF THE CLASSIC EVERQUEST RULEST,ITEMS CLEARLY, FEAR CLEARLY, CHARM CLEARLY.

[dusk883]

Originally Posted by Darksinga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. No one is going to have 100 plat to blow on multiple pumices, most likely you will have around one, and you won't be able to even get one till around level 30 with you blowing all your money on spells, armor, etc...

As a casual player, I'll have 100pp before I hit level 5. Not being able to afford multiple pumice isn't going to be an issue for most.

[lethdar]

Originally Posted by Darksinga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. No one is going to have 100 plat to blow on multiple pumices, most likely you will have around one, and you won't be able to even get one till around level 30 with you blowing all your money on spells, armor, etc...

2. I just don't get how GM's can make some ridiculous shit in game while not put other ridiculous shit in. For instance, SK Harm Touch refresh on death?

3. Why is fear/charm not in game for the benefit of CC classes yet SK's get a free refresh timer instead of waiting it out? I see major exploitation here. Kill Group A, die at your bind to fresh HT, go pwn Group B with the same Harm Touch... Umm?

4. Pure melees are going to receive it in the butt to a single earth elemental pet because they can't channel. Come on guys, you all have seen how earth pet root lasts 18-24 seconds, GG.

5. Solution: Make the pumice one charge, pillage enchantment, instant cast and lore. If a pet is on you, you can pell your root and maybe get away with some jboots and strafing.

6. This also adds more dynamic to DOT classes, remember these before you could have a million fukn pumices to pell all their dots?? Maybe druid/necro damage will be viable for once and you actually have to use STRATEGY to determine when you want to burn your pumice. Or hey maybe you actually have to mem the cast version of dispell instead of going to your 24 pumices in Bag 1,2, and 3???

7. Nullify Magic pumice is in fact more stupid because it has 5 charges, is super CHEAP, and you can have as MANY as you want. So let me get this straight, you guys would rather have a bard cast x10 nullify magics on you on the run rather than one pillage enchantment? Dumb much?

8. For the sake of Classic, let it be classic. Get rid of this "dynamic pvp system," let immy healing/bind rushing/corpse camping/etc etc be in the game because they were in on live and they added their OWN dynamic.

9. QQ Less, L2P Better.

1) You're a moron, plat is ridiculously easy to get on p99, anyone who cares can have 1000s by lvl 10.

2) Prenerf treant fists must be added for classic immersion sake! Also, every dupe that existed at the time. Got be 100% classic ya dig?

3) Again, make sure i can dupe all my gear and crash zones at will, gotta be 100% classic, no room for anyone to make intelligent choices on what is or is not healthy for the server amirite?

4) You're really really fucking dumb.

5) That you even think pets are an issue at the high end is mind boggling. Seriously, how bad are you? You think root is going to land once people have gear? You expect GMs to make custom items based upon your droolcup retard views on how the server will pan out?

6) Egg shaped pumice... cheaper and better at removing dots, add strategy how?

7) Yes, because any competent player, which you've again clearly displayed that you are not, will have instaclicks to stop that scenario from happening. Clearly what you'd prefer is having monk/rogue/sk rule the server killing anyone/anything with bags full of egg shaped. Let me know how much you enjoy playing a bard when any sk with half a brain figures out he can just click it every 3 seconds when your selos lands and autoattacks you to death.

8) It's buggy now, but guess what? It's beta. Deal with it. GMs are fixing it as they go along on their free time.

9) You're the guy who posted about how experience was too slow on beta while playing a bard. Once you're level 2 you can straight up ding lvl 10 in one pull.

You're that bad.

[Gnar]

Originally Posted by Darksinga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

7. Nullify Magic pumice is in fact more stupid because it has 5 charges, is super CHEAP, and you can have as MANY as you want. So let me get this straight, you guys would rather have a bard cast x10 nullify magics on you on the run rather than one pillage enchantment? Dumb much?

no wonder you have a shit reputation and get pooped on every box rev.

[dusk883]

egg shaped pumice availability is something we need a decision on. This determines my class in game IMO.

It's a retarded item in the end, takes any thinking out of the game and shouldn't be in game. However, I couldn't care less if it's in or out...but it's need to know info IMO.

[Envious]

So funny the ones that want it out the most are the same ones that will be farming golem wands for days on end.

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So funny the ones that want it out the most are the same ones that will be farming golem wands for days on end.

I dont see this as being a bad thing.

Farming for items that give you an advantage in PVP seems logical.
Buying vendor items that create imbalance in game is a problem.

When it comes down to it, I'll play by whatever rules. I'll have to adapt.