p1999 - punishing noobs - Page 6

Ravenlof · #51 09-16-2011, 04:22 PM

quit the qq and use the interwebs like the rest of us.

vinx · #52 09-17-2011, 12:20 AM

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After roaming around for 20 minutes unable to find anything or each other, the consensus was, oh well - move on to another game.

just wow lol

This is seriously not the game for anyone that cant play for 20mins without accomplishing something or being given instant gratification.
EQ takes more dedication then playing wow or a FPS

Kika Maslyaka · #53 09-17-2011, 12:42 AM

Honestly, I like in game maps, but not ugly LoY kind, but how they done say in WoW - you explore an area, it becomes revealed on your map - it sort of how it worked in older RPGs like say Baldurs Gate, and I think it adds to lore and immersion.
Its actually quite logical too - as your char explores the world, he takes notes of where he has been and where is what.

Some may argue that it makes game easier, but honestly its only navigation part of things.

People say maps are not classic, yet back in 99 the community was BEGGING Verant to add in-game maps. If verant would have done it during the "classical" era, rather than during LoY, no one now would screaming how much they hate maps [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And yes some places are very confusing beyond believe. First time I played Dark Elf it took me 45 min to find my way from 3rd gate to Nektulos. On other hand I know places like Blackburrow and Qeynos like a back of my hand

Of course whatever we think of maps essentially irrelevant, as the people who run this server intend to make it exactly as it was, even if it means "dumbing" things down (like removing UI control options, forcing old models etc). Just accept it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

raptorak · #54 09-17-2011, 12:51 AM

Some changes to EQ over the years made it a better game.

Maps and removal of hybrid penalties are up there among the best.

While you are at it, fix humans and give them the 10% xp bonus they were SUPPOSED to have rather than giving a bonus to halflings which is an error in the first place.

**nilbog** · #55 09-17-2011, 09:50 AM

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After roaming around for 20 minutes unable to find anything or each other, the consensus was, oh well - move on to another game. Didn't feel like alt-tabbing, etc.

wow. If not having in game maps(which were only in newbie zones) made your friends leave, then I doubt anything past newbie lands would have made them stay.

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Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some changes to EQ over the years made it a better game.

Maps and removal of hybrid penalties are up there among the best.

While you are at it, fix humans and give them the 10% xp bonus they were SUPPOSED to have rather than giving a bonus to halflings which is an error in the first place.

no

Kevlar · #56 09-17-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While you are at it, fix humans and give them the 10% xp bonus they were SUPPOSED to have rather than giving a bonus to halflings which is an error in the first place.

Halflings deserve it just for being so damn stupid looking.

stormlord · #57 09-17-2011, 05:08 PM

I kind of felt the same way when they removed spell descriptions. I even made a post about that back when I noticed it. As far as maps are concerned, the only maps that worked were the ones in the towns. That didn't bother me at all. Even further, the map didn't show where the other group members were (like in later client versions). That was one of the things I didn't like as a ranger on live because it always made me feel warm and fuzzy inside when a group member needed me for tracking. When they added the symbol for other group members then nobody needed me to find each other. Anyway, the removal of maps here doesn't bother me, but its presence never bothered me either.

Stamina regeneration still hasn't been added to the game. Why're they so quick to remove other things but stamina regeneration is still on the back burner? But anyway, whatever. Tomorrow is another day.

stormlord · #58 09-17-2011, 05:13 PM

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wow. If not having in game maps(which were only in newbie zones) made your friends leave, then I doubt anything past newbie lands would have made them stay.

no

You make a good point, but the towns, particularly, seem to cause a gut reaction to look for a map. Needing to find banks, merchants, guilds, etc. Moving quickly through them saves time, but not your life (like in a dungeon).

Not only that, but it will encourage people to use MQ2 to track.

It's true that what we have now isn't much different, but why take chances?

I say this with others in mind, not myself. I'm fine with the change. I never liked maps.

Thulack · #59 09-17-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stormlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You make a good point, but the towns, particularly, seem to cause a gut reaction to look for a map. Needing to find banks, merchants, guilds, etc. Moving quickly through them saves time, but not your life (like in a dungeon).

Not only that, but it will encourage people to use MQ2 to track.

It's true that what we have now isn't much different, but why take chances?

I say this with others in mind, not myself. I'm fine with the change. I never liked maps.

If someone is gonna use MQ its not to find a bank thats for sure. Someone gonna take the time to download and setup MQ when they can just open a web browser and find one of the many sites that has EQ maps so you can see where your going is pointless. If they are downloading MQ its not to take place of a map.

stormlord · #60 09-17-2011, 05:23 PM

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If someone is gonna use MQ its not to find a bank thats for sure. Someone gonna take the time to download and setup MQ when they can just open a web browser and find one of the many sites that has EQ maps so you can see where your going is pointless. If they are downloading MQ its not to take place of a map.

I'm not so sure about that. The other day I saw someone at a merchant and then I turned to the merchant window for 5 seconds. Then I looked back and the person was gone. I did a /who and hte person was not in the zone. I'm pretty sure they were a bard. I didn't report because I don't have enough information and the person was /anon. I wrote their name down just in case I see them again. But anyway, don't assume that people won't have the desire to cheat.

I'm not a cheater myself. I'm playing the devils advocate.