Little GM intervention as possible

[Smedy]

Originally Posted by gloinz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the server needs trains to maintain balance imo

ya can raid all ya want but a well trained pvp champ with a kobold army is gunna do some damage

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it maintains balance in the game, and prevents ppl from bitching about alleged trains (when the majority of time it didnt happen)
such examples include a pvp champ utilizing ghengis khan archery tactics on a group of girlymen, leading them into a trap of hill giants which these girlymen run into

now the pvp champ didn't train noone, but of course these girlymen gunna cry like hell that the pvp champ did rather than admit defeat in shame

in closing yall girlymen need to man up and allow training, if ya don't suck it aint to hard to stopem, just send one person who can root ( or 50 if its gloinz)

I have a special place in my heart for the champ, i hope we can fight side by side vs the scum of norrath.

[LastBoss]

Originally Posted by Not_Kazowi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also: nothing pissed me off more when someone was a shady fuck and would break the rules, then cry to the GM to enforce some bullshit on me.

Yeah you are so white knight! yeah right!

[Foxx]

european basketball players are far inferior to us americans.

smedy is mad lebron aint swede

[Silikten]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have plenty bro

http://tallonzektimes.org/bb/index.php?topic=31402.0


None of u because you weren't even playing on the primetime VZTZ, unknown scrublet

Best SS is when you looted Tstaff. Every true monk knows what I am talking about~

[Not_Kazowi]

Some GM intervention? Sure maybe small shit like, this dude is CLEARLY ackin or exploiting. But none of this pvp in the planes then guild B cries incessantly about a train guild A dropped on them mid pvp in PLANE OF FEAR??


Pretty simple, maybe blatant unnecessary trains should be bannable but thats pushing it. Should be street justice, always works out. Act like a shit head get treated like one etc.


Also: hey super pals

[Silikten]

big rexxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Envious]

Agree'ing with Rexx kills my soul.

But its double truth. Steet justice

*Insert Rexx holding shotgun*

[Buhbuh]

This thread is basically the point of view from former Heresy members. Street justice sounds great because it usually always worked out for that guild. Street justice doesn't always sort things out.

But I'll give you a for instance.

Guild A has just reached the N wall in PoFear. Guild B has gathered outside and wants control of the zone and to prevent Guild A from retrieving better gear. Needless to say, Guild B is far better geared than Guild A and wants to keep it that way. The intention is to engage. Instead, a member from Guild B zones in, trains half the zone to N wall, Guild A is unprepared ("they should have been prepared," terrible argument), Guild A wipes, Guild B takes the zone, /end.

That's cool? You're going to just say the moral is to anticipate? Let's not act like everyone in this thread just let sleeping dogs lie after situations like that occurred. You're delusional if you think that was even remotely true. Read a thread from back in the day on VZTZ.

Anytime someone got fucked in the game, they had a new complaint on the boards. Exploits/ bugs were only brought to light after it directly effected another player (who knew about it) in a bad way. It was pathetic. And you all have that same mind set regarding R99.

Street justice through and through is bullshit. I'm all for as little GM intervention as possible, but we all know the people posting in this thread have more time (or will make more time) than most other people for R99. And most of you are previously from Heresy. Street justice will almost always fall in your favor.

[Silikten]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread is basically the point of view from former Heresy members. Street justice sounds great because it usually always worked out for that guild. Street justice doesn't always sort things out.

But I'll give you a for instance.

Guild A has just reached the N wall in PoFear. Guild B has gathered outside and wants control of the zone and to prevent Guild A from retrieving better gear. Needless to say, Guild B is far better geared than Guild A and wants to keep it that way. The intention is to engage. Instead, a member from Guild B zones in, trains half the zone to N wall, Guild A is unprepared ("they should have been prepared," terrible argument), Guild A wipes, Guild B takes the zone, /end.

That's cool? You're going to just say the moral is to anticipate? Let's not act like everyone in this thread just let sleeping dogs lie after situations like that occurred. You're delusional if you think that was even remotely true. Read a thread from back in the day on VZTZ.

Anytime someone got fucked in the game, they had a new complaint on the boards. Exploits/ bugs were only brought to light after it directly effected another player (who knew about it) in a bad way. It was pathetic. And you all have that same mind set regarding R99.

Street justice through and through is bullshit. I'm all for as little GM intervention as possible, but we all know the people posting in this thread have more time (or will make more time) than most other people for R99. And most of you are previously from Heresy. Street justice will almost always fall in your favor.

I was previously from GSG. Where about 5 of us would kill about 10-20 of enemies. Just to state that I am not exactly "Heresy" although I was in the guild and it was a great guild!

The moral of your story, for me anyways, would be Guild A should have zoned out and fought Guild B or held the zone in. I have held a zone in for about 2 hours once and it was epic. I have also been the one to zone out and try to kill the guild outside. That was also epic.

There were so many good fights with the euros and the zerg guilds which many can attest to. What I don't think is cool is the jerk who trained. Training only begets training. When it comes to gaming its treat others how you want to be treated, period. That's how I feel--for the most part.

Knuckle and I used to be mortal enemies but as times went on we simply began to just realize we both played somewhat honorably and left it at that. Just a fun fact for the public!

p.s. BuhBuh i know you are exactly the type to train if trained and allow LnS if you were allowed LnS. Which is exactly how it should be and I am sure you would agree to that. But basically, training is for revenge, stopping a guild, or because you have no pvp talent.

[Not_Kazowi]

I see your point buhbuh but street justice really is the answer. Anyone who represents fair play will be treated as an equal, me being from a large top guild or not. I was not always in #1 guild revered by the server, i spent plenty of time as an outcast or in a smaller guild.


My experience is that if you are looked at as a fair guy, then people just wont fuck with you. Sure there will be the guild full of shit heads like gloinz or vigg who will uncontrollably grief you for the luls but they will make their life hard on the server by doing that.


There is no perfect answer or solution to a euphoric server, but I personally believe that little GM intervention, and a reputation based server policy will really be the best.