Interesting read.

[Robben]

Originally Posted by Atennu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I bet you're a big Lee Marvin fan

I have no idea who that is, I'll google him after this post [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Bossco]

First off, I want to thank Mitic for being a constant source of entertainment. You always make me lawl bro <3

Now, let's get back to the topic...

Anyone who isn't concerned about this should be. Have you really not played on this server? Do you not understand who the people are running this server? Why don't we take the head guys one by one.

Nilbog: Alright, let's be fair. I've never had a bad experience with Nilbog. Yes, he has been known to pick and choose 'classic' features, but eh, whatever. The man is the voice of reason on the staff, but he doesn't seem to take the hands on approach necessary to reign in the rest of the staff.

Rogean: Props, rogean you do a great job. That being said, he's like 22. Maybe I'm an asshole, but I would rather not tempt a kid with the opportunity to scam a couple thousand people out of their bank acct's. I don't think Rogean would ever do this, but do you really want to take the chance? How well do you know him, really?

Uthgaard: Lawl. If you have been paying attention at all for the last 16-18 months, you'd cross the street to get away from this man, much less offer him your pin number.

Secrets: <3 you Secrets. keep living your life the way you feel most comfortable. That being said, if you have no idea what I'm talking about, do you really know Secrets well enough to hand over access to your pc?


Oh wait, and iirc, p99 hasn't exactly been 100% secure with their own data in the past. With the existence and distribution of this .dll public knowledge, who knows who will attempt to access it and use it for their own purposes? Sony got hacked hard recently. p99 have a better security team? Doubtful.


TL;DR Anyone who isn't concerned about this is an idiot. If you see bossco online it is because he is now a guild toon of TR. P99 uninstalled.

p.s. I don't cheat, bossco is still lvl 60. It isn't just those sus'd that are concerned.

[visage]

Originally Posted by Bossco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First off, I want to thank Mitic for being a constant source of entertainment. You always make me lawl bro <3

Now, let's get back to the topic...

Anyone who isn't concerned about this should be. Have you really not played on this server? Do you not understand who the people are running this server? Why don't we take the head guys one by one.

Nilbog: Alright, let's be fair. I've never had a bad experience with Nilbog. Yes, he has been known to pick and choose 'classic' features, but eh, whatever. The man is the voice of reason on the staff, but he doesn't seem to take the hands on approach necessary to reign in the rest of the staff.

Rogean: Props, rogean you do a great job. That being said, he's like 22. Maybe I'm an asshole, but I would rather not tempt a kid with the opportunity to scam a couple thousand people out of their bank acct's. I don't think Rogean would ever do this, but do you really want to take the chance? How well do you know him, really?

Uthgaard: Lawl. If you have been paying attention at all for the last 16-18 months, you'd cross the street to get away from this man, much less offer him your pin number.

Secrets: <3 you Secrets. keep living your life the way you feel most comfortable. That being said, if you have no idea what I'm talking about, do you really know Secrets well enough to hand over access to your pc?


Oh wait, and iirc, p99 hasn't exactly been 100% secure with their own data in the past. With the existence and distribution of this .dll public knowledge, who knows who will attempt to access it and use it for their own purposes? Sony got hacked hard recently. p99 have a better security team? Doubtful.


TL;DR Anyone who isn't concerned about this is an idiot. If you see bossco online it is because he is now a guild toon of TR. P99 uninstalled.

p.s. I don't cheat, bossco is still lvl 60. It isn't just those sus'd that are concerned.

Wheres my damn praise Bossco I am like in awe.

[Striiker]

Uhh, yeah. If anyone believes that BS snippet then you are being fooled. If you are seriously concerned about privacy then play the game in a sandbox on your computer or play in on a computer which does not contain sensitive information or don't play the game at all. Also, do you honestly think that the devs really want to see your personal info on your computer? (They could care less.. I'm sorry but your importance in the world is not as significant as you imagine)
The reality is that people are cheating and steps need to be taken to address the cheating otherwise the server population will implode as players leave due to rampant cheating. In the end those of us who really want a great classic EQ experience will move on and the cheaters will remain to show how awesome they are... to nobody.. well other than a handful of cheating players and what's the point in that? This is just like the days when Punkbuster first came out and people were getting upset because it could allow someone to see what was being displayed to the player etc. It was necessary to try to keep people interested in playing. I've completely abandoned online games before because of cheating. I don't want to see this happen to Project1999.
Remember, there will be a lot of crap being spread around by players who were suspended or are upset that they can't cheat at a game. It's very easy to fake details and make them look authentic (the original poster of this thread obviously didn't make any effort towards that end).

So, play the game and enjoy it. If you worry about your personal privacy, take steps to safeguard it.

[Sake]

Have the staff mentioned anything at all about these files yet? As someone who was interested prior to hearing about this in playing I am a bit concerned that there hasn't been a word from the staff.

Seems like a lot of speculation / concerns could be remedied if the staff would just be transparent on this issue with the player base. Its not like the files aren't common knowledge from what it seems, so it doesn't seem like a legit reason to stay quiet about it aside from concerning your player base?

If there is a staff update and I missed it id appreciate if someone linked, simply interested in playing but this seems sketchy. Also surprised at the amount of people not concerned about their personal privacy.

[Jigga]

its amazing what people will do when they have an addiction

[Arrisard]

Originally Posted by Sake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have the staff mentioned anything at all about these files yet? As someone who was interested prior to hearing about this in playing I am a bit concerned that there hasn't been a word from the staff.

Seems like a lot of speculation / concerns could be remedied if the staff would just be transparent on this issue with the player base. Its not like the files aren't common knowledge from what it seems, so it doesn't seem like a legit reason to stay quiet about it aside from concerning your player base?

If there is a staff update and I missed it id appreciate if someone linked, simply interested in playing but this seems sketchy. Also surprised at the amount of people not concerned about their personal privacy.

Again, I pose the question: Why would the Dev's word be enough?

I'm not saying they shouldn't say anything (infact, I agree with out), but, I just don't see the logic of "if they say it's ok, then it's ok".

Not being concerned with privacy in general is not the same thing as not being concerned with every vague and non-specific claim that could probably apply to literally 99% of every program I have installed on my computer already from people with an axe to grind (not specifically the OP). JFC, I hope none of you have Chrome, Steam, or PunkBuster installed. Oh noes, they have my gateway IP!!!!!!11111 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this is a concern that is JUST coming to your attention, stay off "gray area" emulators in general or learn some basic compartmentalization.

[Sake]

Isn't a matter of ITS OK LETS GO! its more a matter of expressing what it does.

Sure that doesn't change if they say LOL ITS OK DONT WORRY that it still might not be safe. However when you hide things and try and sneak things in and aren't up front about it (granted the reason is partially understood but that cat is out of the bag now so should be irrelavent with the hacking) it poses the concern.

[Arrisard]

Originally Posted by Sake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't a matter of ITS OK LETS GO! its more a matter of expressing what it does.

Sure that doesn't change if they say LOL ITS OK DONT WORRY that it still might not be safe. However when you hide things and try and sneak things in and aren't up front about it (granted the reason is partially understood but that cat is out of the bag now so should be irrelavent with the hacking) it poses the concern.

Like I said, I actually agree. But ultimately it doesn't change anything - I just encourage anyone to be concerned with this in the first place to take some basic precautions even if they aren't playing on P99.

[Ihealyou]

Any program can open pretty much any file on your computer. Its something you learn in intro programming, not leet hacking school.

Now lets pretend that Rogean and Nilbog want to steal your personal info. They would have to go through hundreds of gigabytes of data, for each person, to find info which may or may not be there. Do that for the 20,000 accounts that play, and you have an unreasonable amount of data to sift through. Even if they could go through all that data, how are they supposed to separate personal information from random numbers and other garbage?

Now lets pretend that they found some way to get your personal information out of all that data. They're risking the end of the server, the destruction of their reputation, and probably legal action. They have a lot to lose if they try to steal your info. On the other hand, you have an anonymous pastebin chat log, of two anonymous people talking, in a manner which makes it sound staged. At the same time, there's over 300 pissed off nerds who got banned for hacking. They have nothing to lose by posting stuff like this.

So what seems more likely? Rogean and the crew are committing felonies to steal your infoz, or pissed off hackers are anonymously spreading false information to hurt the server?