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Old Yesterday, 12:19 PM
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ya but there are 4 difficulties for all zones, difficulty 4 is legit challenging and rewards the best loot

i want to be a MONSTER even if im not competing....im just a min / maxxer at heart

plus i got 2 RL homies playing...both are dead set on their classes

homie 1: SK / Bard / Wiz (hes banking on spellcrit AAs synergizing with lifetaps, and bringing the bard to the group)
homie 2: Ranger, Mage, Rogue (his fav 3 classes, wants to bring the boom, plus rogue/mage sneak + coth utility later for speedfarming raids)

So I need to pick 3 that compliments all that. I'm still thinking enchanter will be good on difficulty 4 because mobs become multi classed themselves and I think mana sieve will be huge since some of the mechanics include non-interruptable casters that are CHing themselves.

I think cleric heals + buffs bring a lot to that. So I'm leaning cleric + enchanter + xx (undecided).
EQL is NOT like THJ so your buddy will be very disappointed with SK/BRD/WIZ. There will be no kiting entire zones with huge Bard DoT/lifetap crits. In fact, I heard they disabled DoT damage on moving mobs entirely, so Bard kiting is no longer a thing at all on EQL. I know this was the premier toon on THJ but it will be fairly lackluster on EQL. At the very least it will make a very high agro tank, though, which isn't nothing. It's actually pretty hard to make an objectively bad build in EQL, so he will be fine in a group. He just won't be facerolling everything like THJ.

Your second buddy has a better build for pure DPS. Would synergize well with the first guy tanking. Ranger is kind of redundant paired with Rogue though. He's probably better off replacing with Druid for their considerable utility while still maintaining the Ranger feel (Druid/Rogue is basically just Ranger on steroids). You could do something like ENC/CLR/SHM and be a pure caster just focused on charming, CCing, and healing/buffing. Or maybe ENC/CLR/WAR if you want to be more sturdy and also be able to jump in and contribute some DPS/tanking yourself as well.
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Old Yesterday, 12:37 PM
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homie 2: Ranger, Mage, Rogue (his fav 3 classes, wants to bring the boom, plus rogue/mage sneak + coth utility later for speedfarming raids)

So I need to pick 3 that compliments all that. I'm still thinking enchanter will be good on difficulty 4 because mobs become multi classed themselves and I think mana sieve will be huge since some of the mechanics include non-interruptable casters that are CHing themselves.

I think cleric heals + buffs bring a lot to that. So I'm leaning cleric + enchanter + xx (undecided).
I do like the Ranger for tracking for named, using a sneak to position and COTH the group tactics. Maybe mixing in some harmony too for outdoor zones.

Yeah difficulty 4 will have multi-class NPCs which you need to get under control before they try to stun or charm you or worse.

Dealing with an NPC that has Promised Renewal is a priority.
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Old Yesterday, 12:42 PM
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All this talk... will the game be challenging at all? Or is it just a power-fantasy for folks who wanted to see every zone?

Vanilla EQ as seen in p99 seems to be the right amount of challenging, but this iteration (EQL) seems like its not going to be challenging at all....
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Old Yesterday, 01:07 PM
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Gnome rogue/SK/ranger . . . just cuz
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All this talk... will the game be challenging at all? Or is it just a power-fantasy for folks who wanted to see every zone?

Vanilla EQ as seen in p99 seems to be the right amount of challenging, but this iteration (EQL) seems like its not going to be challenging at all....
It depends on advertising and hype.

I will tell you this thou. Seeing blue become red and green become blue is not something I will be sticking around for.

And the mess to merge the servers just isn't happening in my eyes.
*pick only 8 toons to keep
*change or claim your name
*plus nilbog is already busy pushing the success and development of EQLs. We maybe competing for his time on both fronts.
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Old Yesterday, 01:18 PM
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and bringing the bard to the group
I feel like one of the major things THJ did was give everyone runspeed buffs, because tbh I can't imagine not putting bard into every single combo for that alone. 🤔
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Old Yesterday, 01:36 PM
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I feel like one of the major things THJ did was give everyone runspeed buffs, because tbh I can't imagine not putting bard into every single combo for that alone. ��
Maybe we can donate to the server for buffs.
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Old Yesterday, 01:37 PM
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Gnome rogue/SK/ranger . . . just cuz
That was one build I really wanted to try. SK Rog Wiz was legitimately great.

I do forget why rogue + ranger would be good beyond sneaking around. It must have been having double assassinate type skills.
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Old Yesterday, 01:45 PM
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Maybe we can donate to the server for buffs.
I always thought the day someone stops making those buffs permanent (which they were for the servers lifetime) would be the day I stopped playing on THJ.

Like, in the breif moments where it wouldn't be on it was like hell.

So i can't imagine not having a bard in my mix on EQL.
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Old Yesterday, 02:19 PM
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I don't think it would have been such a problem if that buff didn't exist in the first place. You get acclimated to bard speed and you feel a very real sense of suffering when it's suddenly taken from you. Happens with any standard of living you lose access to. Pretty scummy and sneaky way to drive uh.. donations.
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