How far are we from AI recreating EQ99?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool.

But to answer OPs question:

When can 1 developer make EQ with AI?

Right now. The answer is right now.

A team of developers could build it without AI.

One developer could build it without AI.

Can a single newbie game developer use AI to make Everquest? No.

Can a single veteran game developer make Everquest by themselves without AI? Yes.

My guess is OP is talking about AI because they are more interested in the first question "Can a single newbie game developer use AI to make Everquest?"

The answer is no. It will be no for at least the next few years, unless we get a new breakthrough in AI.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can a single newbie game developer use AI to make Everquest? No.

I would disagree.

Can a single newbie developer who is capable of learning new things and is smart, and has passion and drive, build EQ with AI?

YES. (They could do that right now as a hobby, without any use of AI. but AI is going to reduce about 90% of the time it would take to learn things)

Can a single retard with no passion and no previous success in any aspects of their lives, is a quitter, never finishes anything, never tried to learn a new skill before make EQ with AI?

No.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The answer is no. It will be no for at least the next few years, unless we get a new breakthrough in AI.

This is ironic, because I would argue that it would be mor elike 20 years before someone could build EQ the way YOU ARE ASKING. Which is not what OP asked.

Op gave 2 examples of how he expects the game to be made with AI, using traditional means aided with AI, and you're answering a different question.

You're answering the question: How long until Alexa can make EQ.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can a single newbie developer who is capable of learning new things and is smart, and has passion and drive, build EQ with AI?

The answer to this question is no.The reason for this is AI is not perfect at debugging it's own code. A newbie would not be able to debug the code either, because they are not experienced enough to understand the code AI is writing.

[Belambic]

It would take the newbie developer decades to make an EQ style game with AI.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The question was: Look someone built doom like this.

Can someone build eq like this?

Not, can someone wish EQ into existence because someone built Doom using AI?

ok so I finally actually watched that vid. Lol, lmao, kek even.

That guy didn't build doom, not even close. Plus, doom is open source, which makes it surprising how hood that was considering how it works top to bottom is already inside AI.

And I'll be honest I don't see a difference between your two questions. They're both trying to wish it into existence because someone did it with AI and then adamantly pushing back after being told "no" by people who actually use this shit and vaguely know how it works.

But to answer your question directly, no not really. You could use it to assist you in developing an mmo in unity or whatever, if you wanted, but no, it couldn't actually build the whole game for you. You'd come into too many problems with its inability to be consistent.

The bottom line is that AI can never, ever be used for anything important because it isn't idempotent.

There would have to be a substantial jump in its capabilities in order to do so.

[BradZax]

Where in the video is the AI building the whole game?

It isnt because that isnt what OP asked.

He asked when can he build EQ using AI like the guy was using AI to learn how to build doom (with 1 hour of work).

You could do that now.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're answering the question: How long until Alexa can make EQ.

By definition, a newbie game developer is incapable of building a game like Everquest, due to their lack of knowledge and skills. If building Everquest was so easy a single newbie could do it, there would be more MMO's on the market. AI would have to do most of the work in this scenario.

Can a newbie become a veteran? Of course. But then the question is no longer "Can a newbie with AI make Everquest?", because the person is no longer a newbie.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that he didnt buil ddoom is another argument that you guys are being retarded.

He didnt even give an example of someone asking AI to build a game, he was literally using AI to build a game after never having done it before.

Showing that anyone can learn how to build EQ with AI.

I mean its your argument, so, I'm not really sure where you are anymore. The question has been asked and answered.

It sounds like you want to do this, so, don't let us stop you. Go learn how to program with AI big dawg glgl. You don't need a bunch of strangers permissions on a forum for a 30 year old emulated game.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The bottom line is that AI can never, ever be used for anything important because it isn't idempotent.

There would have to be a substantial jump in its capabilities in order to do so.

THIS is where we're arguing about power consumption.

Going back to the first time I brought it up, it was in response to an absolutist statement like this, that is based off people using AI that is hard capped at about 10-20% of its actual capability.

The reason we see so much investment into AI is because at 100% usage, you don't see the mistakes we all see, you see better agents, you see worker replacement.

I'm just talking about the EXCITING and COOL technological advancements that are soon to come to blow our minds, because recently companies like META have been given the permission to build and operate their own power.

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean its your argument, so, I'm not really sure where you are anymore. The question has been asked and answered.

It sounds like you want to do this, so, don't let us stop you. Go learn how to program with AI big dawg glgl. You don't need a bunch of strangers permissions on a forum for a 30 year old emulated game.

I didn't comment if EQ would be build-able by just asking AI to make it.

I don't know if that will ever happen.

Can someone make a film like jurrasic park in their bedroom with AI video tools right now? I actually don't think so.

Could someone make everquest in their bedroom right now with AI tools? Yes absolutly.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Could someone make everquest in their bedroom right now with AI tools? Yes absolutly.

You aren't providing the proper context when it comes to what the AI is doing to help create Everquest. You are keeping it ambiguous.

As I said in my previous post:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By definition, a newbie game developer is incapable of building a game like Everquest, due to their lack of knowledge and skills. If building Everquest was so easy a single newbie could do it, there would be more MMO's on the market. AI would have to do most of the work in this scenario.

Can a newbie become a veteran? Of course. But then the question is no longer "Can a newbie with AI make Everquest?", because the person is no longer a newbie.