Nerd Thread about Diablo 3

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Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is no limit to a corporate greed and stupidity

http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20110802

I have already boycotted SC-2 due to idiotic online registration requirements, looks like this one is next on the list

/puke

same

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Originally Posted by deathgirl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the world sucks, whiner. just play on hardcore. it won't have rmt auctions. yw

hmm i might buy it then, maybe..i hate this online registration bullshit though, fuck blizzard.

And every other server WILL turn rapidly to shit, I've played on private servers for like WoW where donating got you badass gear. It takes risk vs reward out of the equation entirely, fuck it.

[Kika Maslyaka]

I probably would not even care for RMAH, since I never ever bought anything in MMO for RC, but what bugs me the hell out of it, is just WHY do I have to be perma-connected to bnet to play a SOLO game???

Ok fine I understand, Bliz wants to store your chars in their Db to prevent cheating and char hacking, but guys - Diablo is not a MMO! Yes it can be played with small company of friends, but mostly its a SOLO game, and I don't understand why would Bliz even care if I hack or cheated my very own SOLO game???

Not like I ever did so, but still. In D2 there were open Bnet realms and closed realms, where chars were stored online - why not do the same things? People who WANTS to be secure - play on closed realms, and people who only connect to bnet to fool around with their hacked/cheated chars/gear can log onto open realms (not like I ever even used bnet for D2 - I always played with my friend over direct IP hosting)

Don't get me wrong, I live in 21st century too, I have fiber-optic internet which is on 24/7, so yeah I wouldn't have a problem with a connection or anything. But for argument sake, I go on vacation to a forest camp, and take my laptop with me - why the heck why I can't play a SOLO game without internet connection where I like???

So Bliz goes through this tremendous headache, to achieve what?
We can't play on LAN anymore
We can't host games over IP
We can't even play our own game SOLO for god sake without internet connection!

As someone on gucomics forums said : "Next thing you know, you will need internet to play solitaire"

[bman8810]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dunno how anyone can think this is a good idea. Botters are going to run this game into the fucking ground in months. Like literally as I am typing this there is an army of sweatshop workers making .10 cents an hour in China coordinating efforts to mass bot this game and completely flood the AH with their shit.

How so? D3 isn't a "competitive" game. As such, you don't have to buy gear, you don't have to sell gear, and most importantly you don't have to play with people that do; e.g. real money transactions only affect you if you want them to.

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think Blizzard is going to do anything about it? Fuck no, botters are going to mass sell thousands of items a day which means more cash for Activision. They aren't going to make an effort to stop botting in D3 for two reasons:

1. Botters will make them tons of cash not only buying the game but selling items.
2. They don't want to pay for a division devoted to stopping botters/hackers.

Once again, who cares? D3 isn't a persistent world, go play solo, with friends, or just avoid games with people botting.

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're sitting there thinking to yourself right now "Damn son I'm going to make a living off Diablo3 RMAH lol!!!1one" wake up. You know who's going to make money off this game? Azn farmers, botters, and a select few people that have 18 hours a day they can devote to playing D3 like Athene. The normal average everyday player who goes out to buy D3 to play it for fun isn't going to make peanuts.

Oh well? I PAY money to play other games. D3 is a F2P game that allows for the potential to make a few bucks if you happen to get a rare item.

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The other 95% of the playerbase is going to be shit out of luck trying to compete with the farmers and botters.

It's a game, why am I trying to compete with them?

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's going to cost money to list an item, it's going to cost money to buy an item, and it's going to cost money to sell your item as Blizzard takes a percentage cut out of the total that an item is sold for. After awhile the casual player is going to get sick and tired of listing items losing money in the process for listing fees that don't sell as the botters constantly flood the market and shit all over the economy.

1. You don't have to post items.
2. You get a certain number of FREE RM postings each week. As such, you could make money off of those and use that money to post additional items.
3. Why is the "casual player" even worried about making money at all?

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prices will change drastically on a daily basis. Realistically the only winner in this is going to be Activision-Blizzard as they rake in the millions and the sweat shops in China running 600 bots 24/7 to farm items. I wouldn't be surprised to see this games economy go to complete shit in ~2 months tops.

D2 was farmed to hell and back by botters/hackers and it still has a thriving economy. Not to mention the fact that you can play Diablo all the way through without even touching anything dealing with the economy.

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Playing the game on anything other than Hardcore mode is going to be fucking awful because if you host a public game dickheads are going to snag every single item and claim "RMAH dawg."

I'm beginning to wonder if you even played Diablo 2...

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly I don't even know what the point of Diablo 3 is going to be since they're putting this feature in. The game is based on two concepts - killing shit and getting loot, but if you can just buy your items for real money and win instantly what is the point of even playing it.

You don't have to buy items and "win instantly". As such, why do you care if someone else does?

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's actually beyond me how anyone can think this is a good idea. This is fucking garbage, and since every other gaming company out there emulates Blizzard on everything expect to see this bullshit in future games.

First legitimate argument against RMAH that you have posed.

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I couldn't be happier I ditched WoW like 2 years ago because that games offically gone down the toilet as well with the main concept of it being based on micro transactions instead of actual gameplay, but yeah this feature is going in WoW eventually as well.

Do you actually look into things that you complain about? The only micro transactions for WoW are for cosmetic items and server/faction changes. They don't alter game play.

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Theres no way in hell Bobby Kotik is capable of controlling his greed at this point, he's already completely fucked up that games PVP servers with faction switch for cash.

Whhhhat? Anyone with an ounce of intellect can tell you that PVP and PVE servers were hardly different at all, even during vanilla. Also, what few differences there were were ruined when battlegrounds and cross-server queuing came about. Faction switching HELPS, if anything, due to allowing players to swap to the underpopulated side for faster queue times.

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

D3 will suck if RMAH goes in trust me. I could go off about this for probably another 10 pages I haven't even touched on the how shit this is going to make the playerbase as you come across people that have daddy's credit card linked to their account. The flaming, the shit talking from these kids with mommy and daddy's credit card info, the hatred for people who use RMAH to gear up, the contempt people will have that don't use RMAH, I could go on man for fucking hours about how stupid this is.

You could, but that might require you to actually form valid complaints.

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to mention Blizzard completely scrapped their project for some kind of PVP system in D3. Save the stupid ass PVE vs. PVP arguments because my point is they announced they were ditching PVP in D3 the same day they announce RMAH.

D3 has never been about PVP. D3 has always been about PvE hack-and-slash.

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wanna know why? Because instead of laboring through balancing something that would have been a bad ass end game activity like a non-rated arena system for end game D3, they decided "Hey fuck it, if we put RMAH in and people can just buy their success it's going to make any type of competitive PVP system obsolete. So lets just milk the cash cow at the expense of a better game experience because Activision calls all the shots now, and the final word is cash money ******."

D3 has never and was never intended to be a competitive PVP game. Balancing around PVP and PVE is incredibly difficult and would, quite frankly, be a complete waste of time.

@Kika - I do feel for the people that want to be able to play offline. However, I'm pretty sure they removed solo/lan play largely due to pirating reasons; i.e. they want people to have to BUY their game.

[Klendathu]

Just gonna leave this here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDYjljdje-g

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Originally Posted by Klendathu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just gonna leave this here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDYjljdje-g

Boogie....

..I hate that guy.

[Doors]

Do you actually look into things that you complain about? The only micro transactions for WoW are for cosmetic items and server/faction changes. They don't alter game play.

Thats why the Blizzard store offers you a code to use to redeem for their micro transaction shop. Because you never see people then selling these codes all through trade chat for gold which you can use to buy BoE's and shit. Durrr.

The rest of your arguments make you sound like a sheep by the way. Have fun standing around with nothing to do at max level once you buy all your best in slot gear for real money. Not having some type of PVP system in Diablo 3 is going to be a huge fucking let down.

[Doors]

Whhhhat? Anyone with an ounce of intellect can tell you that PVP and PVE servers were hardly different at all, even during vanilla. Also, what few differences there were were ruined when battlegrounds and cross-server queuing came about. Faction switching HELPS, if anything, due to allowing players to swap to the underpopulated side for faster queue times.

No shit they were hardly different in vanilla. There wasn't an option to switch factions. You can't have people switching factions at the drop of a hat on a PVP server. Whenever people actually had to delete every toon they had and reroll to the other faction it deterred most people from swamping one side completely and screwing up the balance on PVP servers. Wintergrasp was a good example of just how screwed up things got when faction switch was put in. Everyone with daddy's credit card info switched to the larger faction for constant access to Wintergrasp.

Judging by your anti PVP attitude my guess is you never played on any type of PVP server. I did and the imbalance between the two sides made my server complete shit and was considerably noticable.

[bman8810]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats why the Blizzard store offers you a code to use to redeem for their micro transaction shop. Because you never see people then selling these codes all through trade chat for gold which you can use to buy BoE's and shit. Durrr.

"I couldn't be happier I ditched WoW like 2 years ago because that games offically gone down the toilet as well with the main concept of it being based on micro transactions instead of actual gameplay, but yeah this feature is going in WoW eventually as well."

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that being able to sell an in-game pet was so ground breaking as to replace actual gameplay due to being able to buy a couple BoE items.

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The rest of your arguments make you sound like a sheep by the way. Have fun standing around with nothing to do at max level once you buy all your best in slot gear for real money. Not having some type of PVP system in Diablo 3 is going to be a huge fucking let down.

I didn't PVP in Diablo 2 and I loved it and logged tons of time on it. I personally am not the type of person to buy gear but I sure as hell plan on selling any items I get that are worth a few bucks. I also plan on selling the characters I build up and get to max level. I play a character to max, gear him out, and then I get tired of that character. Now, I can sell it. Seems great to me.

Fact of the matter is that practically every argument you made is made null by the fact that you don't have to play with a single person that buys gear. Also, if your concerns are for the arena system, it is going to match people based off skill AND gear. Soooo ya, if you come up against that 10 year old with "daddy's credit card" you should have no problems at all, right?

P.S. If rational arguments make me a sheep... Baaaah.

[bman8810]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No shit they were hardly different in vanilla. There wasn't an option to switch factions. You can't have people switching factions at the drop of a hat on a PVP server. Whenever people actually had to delete every toon they had and reroll to the other faction it deterred most people from swamping one side completely and screwing up the balance on PVP servers. Wintergrasp was a good example of just how screwed up things got when faction switch was put in. Everyone with daddy's credit card info switched to the larger faction for constant access to Wintergrasp.

Judging by your anti PVP attitude my guess is you never played on any type of PVP server. I did and the imbalance between the two sides made my server complete shit and was considerably noticable.

Server imbalances were present from the get-go, faction swapping exacerbated the situation but was hardly the cause of it. Populations began to swing out of balance once Horde gained access to BEs/Paladins.