Anyone want to make up a topic and argue about it?

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea well the difference is:

40% of our dukes & kings came from poverty

Became them by creating something millions of people use or love.

and their reigns end when they die.

Hope. This. HELPS.

Was the M-word useful for casting down/off the unmerited hereditary dukes and kings in a prior age?

[shovelquest]

I agree that capitalism has brought us to an age where there is too much security and safety all over the world. And now we have to "do something about it" other than "killing them all"....

And I also agree that capitalism has brought us to an age, that has gotten us very close to making jobs obsolete...

But, we were ready for capitalism in the 1000's during the enlightenment age, and it took another 1000 years for a country to finally be formed that is built around it.

I'm pretty sure, if you just got a job, and worked towards utopia, you'd ruin less lives than you would if you had a "revolution" to "hope that you could jump start one"

Considering we've had 100s of revolutions and life has continued to suck, until everyone just "got a job" and started working towards utopia when America was invented.

The only way socialist utopia is going to work if all of the sudden we look around and realize we "built that as a result of labor" (AI/robots).

not, that "we forced it to happen for the benifit of labor."

[Botten]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Socialists should try to get together one day and prove to the world just ONCE that their economies can be self sustaining without depleting natural resources to maintain it.

You know, since it's so easy to get lots of people to work together for just the sake of it.

Feels like corrupt capitalism rolling over into Socialism.
-Government acquiring percent stakes in companies
-Rich in the meantime buying up farmland and renting it out to farmers
-Leading too late farm subsidies that ultimately go to the rich
-Tariffs (tax on the ppl) generating new revenue, revenue used to cut taxes on the rich and help create a slush fund to do it more

Meanwhile rally the uneducated supporters to further push a culture war to prevent a class war.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree that capitalism has brought us to an age where there is too much security and safety all over the world. And now we have to "do something about it" other than "killing them all"....

And I also agree that capitalism has brought us to an age, that has gotten us very close to making jobs obsolete...

But, we were ready for capitalism in the 1000's during the enlightenment age, and it took another 1000 years for a country to finally be formed that is built around it.

I'm pretty sure, if you just got a job, and worked towards utopia, you'd ruin less lives than you would if you had a "revolution" to "hope that you could jump start one"

Considering we've had 100s of revolutions and life has continued to suck, until everyone just "got a job" and started working towards utopia when America was invented.

The only way socialist utopia is going to work if all of the sudden we look around and realize we "built that as a result of labor" (AI/robots).

not, that "we forced it to happen for the benifit of labor."

I think if the Bolsheviks were here they would solo/clear when it comes to the current Tsar of Imperial Russia.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

-Tariffs (tax on the ppl) generating new revenue, revenue used to cut taxes on the rich and help create a slush fund to do it more

Meanwhile rally the uneducated supporters to further push a culture war to prevent a class war.

Tariffs are only a tax on the people if you think that "working class" people should live in "third world countries" and "things should be cheaper if you use slaves".

Also you're a socialist, taxes are everything to you, suddenly you're against them?

Obvious militant anti "other side" stance is obvious.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Feels like corrupt capitalism rolling over into Socialism.
-Government acquiring percent stakes in companies
-Rich in the meantime buying up farmland and renting it out to farmers
-Leading too late farm subsidies that ultimately go to the rich
-Tariffs (tax on the ppl) generating new revenue, revenue used to cut taxes on the rich and help create a slush fund to do it more

Meanwhile rally the uneducated supporters to further push a culture war to prevent a class war.

So you admit, that socialism is corrupt.

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[shovelquest]

Reminder 80% of millionaires came from poverty.

100% of people in poverty in socialist countries are stll living in poverty.

Any country that is socialist and isn't impoverished sells more oil than IRAQ to corrupt 3rd world dictatorships.

Hope.

This.

HELPS.

[shovelquest]

*Votes for unions

"TaRIIfSS arE a sAleZ TAzx "

[shovelquest]

This is an argument about economics, pick any of the above stances to find out why you're wrong about them.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any country that is socialist and isn't impoverished sells more oil than IRAQ to corrupt 3rd world dictatorships.

I'm thinking you mean the Scandies? Simpsons did it.