Claw of Lightning or Rogue Epic for offhand?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right. I've been neglectful of my moderator duties in these threads.

I am just asking for consistency. You are clearly trying to moderate me. If you don't want to moderate, there is no need to call out anyone. It isn't a very good look to target one person with accusations, while ignoring other posters who are clearly behaving poorly.

[Cecily]

It's hard to apply the same rigorous standards to everyone when one person is so prolifically wrong.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's hard to apply the same rigorous standards to everyone when one person is so prolifically wrong.

This is simply not true. You are basically claiming if someone has ever been wrong, they can never be right. That is the standard you are applying to me.

No honest discussions can be had this way when people are afraid to speak up for fear of being wrong. One bad post and you can never post again. Being an expert does not mean you can never be wrong either.

I am sure you have been wrong on these forums at least once. You wouldn't want this standard applied to yourself. Don't apply it to others.

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[Duik]

Prolifically wrong.

Imma use that in my next meeting with HR.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's great to include logs and essential to include the exact input to the calculator, which you did, but it would be much more convenient to list for each parse the measured DPS and the calculated DPS.

I was curious if I could replicate your results and when I used the listed inputs to the most recent version of the calculator I got these results:

Sznake vs. Eldak Howlingbear - Epic Fist + Stave of Shielding
552 seconds, 30.28 DPS
Calculator: 30.20, 30.95, 31.77, 31.68, 31.15
Conclusion: High by about 0.5 DPS

Sznake vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Imbued Fighters Staff
553 seconds, 27.5 DPS (without fistweaving)
Calculator: 39.86, 40.14, 37.99, 37.71, 42.70
Conclusion: I must have made a mistake here? This is way off.

Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Ancient Fire Etched Flamberge
531 seconds, 70.25 DPS
Calculator: 78.65, 75.46, 73.99, 76.53, 76.26
Conclusion: Calculator is high by 5-6 DPS

Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Frostwrath
603 seconds, 64.9 DPS
Calculator: 70.50, 72.67, 73.96, 71.73, 74.39
Conclusion: Calculator is high by 5-7 DPS

Shamwowi vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Blight, Hammer of the Scourge
3.23 DoT DPS + 2.9 White Damage DPS = 6.13 DPS
Calculator: 7.06, 6.70, 6.66, 6.37, 6.51
Conclusion: Calculator is high by about 0.5 DPS

Shamwowi vs. Corudoth - Spear of Fate
355 seconds, 32.7 DPS
Calculator: 30.8, 30.24, 31.10, 31.74, 32.17
Conclusion: Calculator is low by about 1 DPS

Does this look correct to you? For the calculator results I reran 5 times and listed the output of "Attacker Predicted Total DPS" each time.

I updated the validation sets for easier use. That will fix the IFS and Corudoth parses. I also added in the Monk Corudoth parse.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q-6...usp=drive_link

I apologize for being a bit snappy yesterday, and I do appreciate Bcbrown doing the validation tests. It is simply frustrating when people keep making baseless claims about my calculator over and over without using it. It is good to see Bcbrown has learned to use it.

[Duik]

All I keep seeing is someone is desperate for validation.

[WarpathEQ]

Yeah moral of the story you're never done using the rogue epic as the +ATK boost is always valuable, once you obtain a better primary weapon you will swap in the epic for backstabs generally.

I believe the only weapons that are worth main handing over the epic are (room for debate):
Doze Dagger
Vyemm Fang
Vulak Dagger

With the first 2 generally swapping epic into your main hand for backstabs, and the latter swapping epic into offhand for backstabs (since it already has 15dmg primary, and swapping out offhand should have less impact on overall DPS).

[zelld52]

You will gain more DPS by just wearing the +40 ATK in your offhand rather than swapping it in for backstabs. +40 attack is a gigantic increase in attack. Only time not to wear the rogue epic is on lower level mobs.

[kjs86z2]

and on lower level mobs who cares

just use your damn epic