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Old 06-03-2025, 06:35 PM
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Autism can be hacked. It has been done. The only path towards immunity is just the path that cultivates resilience and discipline.

There is no true immunity.
think it depends where you fall on the distribution curve of the spectrum, tiktok/reddit autists/neurodivergents absorb propaganda like a sponge so a analogy would be it's more like not having a password at all or the front door being open than being "hacked"


it's a problem of definitions that i'm sure big data has already figured out
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Old 06-03-2025, 07:29 PM
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For the question of: can a person exist without words? I’m assuming yes. The case study there would be anyone who is developmentally delayed to the point of non-verbal. I don’t see non-verbal adult clients all that much (they don’t have long lifespans sadly), but I have seen some. They communicate by using grunts or groans usually. They can understand some words though. Not sure if they are saying words in their own head

And no I don’t think a reflexive movement was conscious, that’s the entire point of a reflex. It is to move without having to activate the conscious part of the brain, usually because it needs to happen faster than conscious thought. There’s all sorts of ways to stimulate a nerve mechanically to cause a reflexive motion, like the old knee taps doctors do come to mind

Skimmed the first video and found the subject interesting but didn’t agree with his own personal takeaways. He seemed to take away that there’s all these random things happening in my brain and it’s constantly trying to justify those to itself. That’s not how I picture consciousness, personally
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Old 06-03-2025, 07:59 PM
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For the question of: can a person exist without words? I’m assuming yes. The case study there would be anyone who is developmentally delayed to the point of non-verbal. I don’t see non-verbal adult clients all that much (they don’t have long lifespans sadly), but I have seen some. They communicate by using grunts or groans usually. They can understand some words though. Not sure if they are saying words in their own head

And no I don’t think a reflexive movement was conscious, that’s the entire point of a reflex. It is to move without having to activate the conscious part of the brain, usually because it needs to happen faster than conscious thought. There’s all sorts of ways to stimulate a nerve mechanically to cause a reflexive motion, like the old knee taps doctors do come to mind

Skimmed the first video and found the subject interesting but didn’t agree with his own personal takeaways. He seemed to take away that there’s all these random things happening in my brain and it’s constantly trying to justify those to itself. That’s not how I picture consciousness, personally
some work on this was done with a normal child, religious freak dad didn't teach his daughter language in an attempt to find the language prior to tower of babel or whatever the fuck, crazy sad story

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child)
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Old 06-04-2025, 02:34 AM
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Alien hand is not reflexes. Most reflexes are relatively simple algorithmic nervous responses processed almost entirely in the spinal cord.

Rather, it is a collection of motor patterns. We have many complex motor patterns that have the ability to be almost entirely autonomous, things like brushing your teeth or your hair, manipulating a steering wheel, wiping your ass. You don't really think about the movements involved, the position and motion of your limbs, you just command your body to do it, like pressing a macro.

Damage to specific areas of the brain can remove executive (conscious) control over these motor patterns, as we see with alien hand. I think the more interesting phenomenon is complete severance of the corpus callosum, connecting the left and right hemispheres, resulting in a human body where the left hand and right hand can be doing two completely different tasks with no awareness of what the other is doing, like two individuals living in one body.

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Where does conciousness and awareness begin? Are we really separate individuals? I no longer believe so. The idea of an ego and an identity apart from our world and universe is a fallacy. Someone built the screen you are reading. People created and standardized the words we are communicating. They are as much a part of you as the salt in your blood that came from the sea and the birth of the world. We are one in the same. All of this is contained within "you" as you are contained within it. Without there would never have been a "you". The very moon in the sky is integral to who you are and how you behave! It's all you!

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LetÂ’s suppose that you were able every night to dream any dream you wanted to dream, and that you could for example have the power within one night to dream 75 years of time, or any length of time you wanted to have.

And you would, naturally, as you began on this adventure of dreams, you would fulfill all your wishes. You would have every kind of pleasure you could conceive. And after several nights of 75 years of total pleasure each you would say “Well that was pretty great”. But now let’s have a surprise, let’s have a dream which isn’t under control, where something is gonna happen to me that I don’t know what it's gonna be.

And you would dig that and would come out of that and you would say “Wow that was a close shave, wasn’t it?”. Then you would get more and more adventurous and you would make further- and further-out gambles what you would dream. And finally, you would dream where you are now. You would dream the dream of living the life that you are actually living today.

That would be within the infinite multiplicity of choices you would have. Of playing that you weren't god, because the whole nature of the godhead, according to this idea, is to play that he is not. So in this idea then, everybody is fundamentally the ultimate reality, not god in a politically kingly sense, but god in the sense of being the self, the deep-down basic whatever there is. And you are all that, only you are pretending you are not.
Of course once you start digging into any possible reason it would be this way you realize, it doesn't make any fucking sense, because it relies on projecting human thoughts and motivations onto the Godhead, namely that something is missing from God that motivates him to partake in this. That 75 years of dreams of total pleasure, or whatever extradimensional transtemporal existence lies outside this reality, somehow has something so bereft about it, so distasteful, that inventing a reality where children get their eyeballs eaten by worms was a worthy endeavor. I'll never understand. Cool that me and the Mexican Cartel-guy peeling my face off while I look in the mirror are fundamentally the same, though.

Maybe this is the hardcore solo self-found reality and it earns our souls mad street cred, or something
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Old 06-04-2025, 09:36 AM
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Alien hand is not reflexes. Most reflexes are relatively simple algorithmic nervous responses processed almost entirely in the spinal cord.

Rather, it is a collection of motor patterns. We have many complex motor patterns that have the ability to be almost entirely autonomous, things like brushing your teeth or your hair, manipulating a steering wheel, wiping your ass. You don't really think about the movements involved, the position and motion of your limbs, you just command your body to do it, like pressing a macro.

Damage to specific areas of the brain can remove executive (conscious) control over these motor patterns, as we see with alien hand. I think the more interesting phenomenon is complete severance of the corpus callosum, connecting the left and right hemispheres, resulting in a human body where the left hand and right hand can be doing two completely different tasks with no awareness of what the other is doing, like two individuals living in one body.







Of course once you start digging into any possible reason it would be this way you realize, it doesn't make any fucking sense, because it relies on projecting human thoughts and motivations onto the Godhead, namely that something is missing from God that motivates him to partake in this. That 75 years of dreams of total pleasure, or whatever extradimensional transtemporal existence lies outside this reality, somehow has something so bereft about it, so distasteful, that inventing a reality where children get their eyeballs eaten by worms was a worthy endeavor. I'll never understand. Cool that me and the Mexican Cartel-guy peeling my face off while I look in the mirror are fundamentally the same, though.

Maybe this is the hardcore solo self-found reality and it earns our souls mad street cred, or something
Awesome post! Thanks a bunch for the correction about alien hand syndrome. Spot on. I oversimplified.

Yeah I feel you about the G-d head and all that. I don't know what to say there really. Just that this is the way it is. This is us, all of us, the world, universe, what have you.

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People in this world exist via collective consent. Many would not exist alone. Or without ancestors or communities supporting them and building the world and systems in which people inhabit and are enabled by.
We just are collectively very immature and selfish. I believe ego is partly responsible for this. With less ego we'd care more about the others.

There's room for the I. The me. The self. It's convenient. Useful. I just always question it when one of the people chattering away in my head brings it up. Try to rephrase it.

In the end. All of that human face peeling is going to be temporary. It will not last forever. Conversly there is great good and caring going on simultaneously in the world self. People helping others get back on their feat. Running good business that gives back to the community. Giving uplifting and helpful messages to bring people away from suffering and hate.

I personally tend to think of the face peeling stuff as the Satan self. Demonic. People who've lost their souls. Completely possessed by evil. Hatred. Fear. Anger. Unable to feel or even reason compassion anymore. In some small ways the entire human spirit is responsible for that. We have not figured out how to help these people or at least keep them from doing more soul damage.

I ramble. I digress. It is way more complex than all that. More complicated then the I, me.

I was a face peeling monster once inside. Now thanks to others influence, and guidance, including G-d's, and Buddha, I and we in turn suffer much less.
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Old 06-04-2025, 06:42 AM
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Had a physical yesterday. Went to docs and he said ok boyo, lets test ya reflexes, dodged that lil hammer fucker no problems.
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Old 06-04-2025, 12:33 PM
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ooh let me try...

all is vibration. voice is vibration. was gods voice that set us in motion.

light is particles and waves. so are we with our body and our voice.

silence they say. shape it like this. the new old way. say it like this.
why do you care so much about what i allow you to say?

you are operating on way less "ego" than you might think. you dont have to split your brain in half for your left hand to be able hide from your right.

the ego is like mr magoo. he is very sleepy
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Old 06-04-2025, 01:21 PM
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ooh let me try...

all is vibration. voice is vibration. was gods voice that set us in motion.
Based and Ainur pilled.
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Old 06-04-2025, 06:06 PM
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the simulation is pushing Alan Watts at me now
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dude was mainly just a boomer who couldn't handle good acid
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Old 06-04-2025, 08:01 PM
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In regards to cartel lore, it’s actually ISIS to blame. Cartels took notice of when that demon “Jihadi John” was cutting people’s heads off on camera more than a decade ago and thought it was the ultimate intimidation tactic. So they adopted it. From there they continued to try to one-up each other in terms of torture

They were all normal people once, gullible dumb kids. Turned into a bunch of psychopaths with no rules living on probably huge amounts of meth

I personally think it’s their hardcore drug use that will prevent them from ever getting tired of the extreme barbarism and going back to simple executions again
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