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Old 01-12-2025, 06:17 PM
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Look at the internet before and after the web2.0 genz/melinial hellscape they replaced it with.

One was literally free of advertising and everything was piriated.

The other is fucking literally causing the end of the world.
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Old 01-12-2025, 06:20 PM
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You're indirectly stealing from the workers who already literally had the surplus value of their labor stolen by the company.

Nor is the software itself finite.
The company stole nothing by offering a set wage in exchange for labor. That the labor *might* deliver excess value eventually doesn't somehow retroactively implicate the employer in some moral crime. The risk is taken by the person signing the front of the check. If there's nobody to sign the front of the check, there are no photoshops to steal because I don't want to work for free anymore than you do.

Also there are things called raises, which also only exist if payroll continues to function.
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Old 01-12-2025, 06:38 PM
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The company stole nothing by offering a set wage in exchange for labor. That the labor *might* deliver excess value eventually doesn't somehow retroactively implicate the employer in some moral crime. The risk is taken by the person signing the front of the check. If there's nobody to sign the front of the check, there are no photoshops to steal because I don't want to work for free anymore than you do.

Also there are things called raises, which also only exist if payroll continues to function.
Is signing checks the most valuable form of labor?
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Old 01-12-2025, 06:41 PM
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Another weird observation about this topic:

Nobody ever gets mad at powerball winners, even though they probably fit the bill of "not earning their money" way, way more than any CEO of any company?
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Is signing checks the most valuable form of labor?
Don't just respond with a question ugh
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Old 01-12-2025, 06:48 PM
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Don't just respond with a question ugh
Man shall not live on signed checks alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.
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Old 01-12-2025, 07:04 PM
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Anyway if Lars was completely right, software programmers should get royalties/residuals too.
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Old 01-12-2025, 07:15 PM
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Anyway if Lars was completely right, software programmers should get royalties/residuals too.
I'm not opposed to that in principle.

To reiterate tough: how come only CEOs get nothing but antipathy because they allegedly don't "earn" their fortunes, but if Jerry wins powerball and rakes in a cool 50mil which he *objectively* did not earn, nobody cares at all?
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Old 01-12-2025, 07:32 PM
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I'm not opposed to that in principle.

To reiterate tough: how come only CEOs get nothing but antipathy because they allegedly don't "earn" their fortunes, but if Jerry wins powerball and rakes in a cool 50mil which he *objectively* did not earn, nobody cares at all?
I don't think anyone else paid for his ticket.
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Old 01-12-2025, 08:14 PM
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I don't think anyone else paid for his ticket.
Well they kinda did cause his check is coming from various taxes, that's just quibbling in the weeds though.

My beef is with the unequal application of the principle. In order to move forward properly in life, I need to know: Am I supposed to hate rich people, or not hate rich people, or if it depends then what does it depend on? Cause I have it on good authority that nepo babies and trust fund babies are very bad, but they're no more guilty of anything than Jimbo who struck gold.
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