Swarming in CoM

[BigChief]

Originally Posted by BigChief [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With your cartoon character.... yeah that is some brave shit

Originally Posted by Stakorian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's clear some things up.

Bards do not frequently take mobs from popular group camps. Most often groups are at Stables (far and away from the swarm location), Temple (same thing), Arena (the bard swarms on the north end and groups primarily occupy the south end), and Moat. Moat is the only camp where the swarm has a chance of picking up a few mobs. The majority of the mobs come from the 2nd and 3rd floor (usually solo'd by Necros and Enchanters) and in deep halls where no one goes.

The pull takes probably 4 minutes altogether, and there are only two small windows of danger. Danger which even the most trackball mouse using boomer can avoid. The clumping of the mobs, and the reaver after the swarm is complete.

Controlling the clumping of mobs is easy, and it only takes a minute or two to shuffle the mobs back and forth near the huts west of Arena. Informing groups that you are pulling is sufficient.

Then there is the reaver. And the bard literally just runs the reaver out towards the moat and then zones before the reaver is close to any groups. Only a moat group would have potential issue.

It seems that people simply have an irrational hate for easy leveling. I've been swarming and had people pull mobs through the swarm and then send a hundred tells about how someone in their group died because of the swarm after they killed me. I've been in CoM with only a stables group and myself, and they were all bitching in OOC and tells because some of the Moat mobs were being taken into my swarm. A group of four taking essentially the entire first floor of mobs from various camps and complaining about 3 mobs. I have also been in CoM with multiple groups, A Necro on the 2nd floor, an arena group, a stables group, and people soloing a few mobs in the front, and I swarmed the 3rd floor and moat with 0 issue.

If there is a moat group things get tricky, but mostly it's irrelevant. It is by far one of the safest and most manageable methods of swarming in a dungeon that has a near zero impact on groups.

Anyone mad, is just mad because you go from 59-60 in 10-11 pulls.

Nah, those swarms can cause LDs

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Originally Posted by BigChief [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, those swarms can cause LDs

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Stakorian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's clear some things up.

Bards do not frequently take mobs from popular group camps.

Not saying you do when you play a Bard, but this is just totally incorrect. The majority of Bards that swarm in COM absolutely do this haha

[cd288]

Do it anyway. Most of the time that Bard is stealing spawns from the other camp. Not like they're going to petition you in that case.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

If you pull mobs off the bard’s kite, and the bard happens to die or zones or whatever, wouldn’t the clump come beat the brakes off you due to social aggro?

[PatChapp]

Yes you will social the whole kite. Salty bards will just zone and let you train yourself

[Duik]

Bar-Dick.
Nuff said.

[Duik]

Once grouped, a bard kite would be difficult to discern how many it contained? Or am I missing something here. A swarm is a mess of mobs ghosting amongst each other. Maybe my machine/connection sucks.

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once grouped, a bard kite would be difficult to discern how many it contained? Or am I missing something here. A swarm is a mess of mobs ghosting amongst each other. Maybe my machine/connection sucks.

Good question, I'm used to seeing this in practice mostly in fear plane and executing it on another bard, since bards have tracking and the range is so short if you're in close proximity to a kiting bard you can fairly easily gauge the size of the kite.

To your point that would be much harder to guage as a random class trying to exp in a zone, especially one that has multiple floors and could pick up mobs on the Z axis. Although I think in general if you're spending a bunch of time in a zone grinding exp you probably have a fairly good sense of the amount of spawns in different areas and how many mobs were up (especially as a puller) to better gauge how big of a kite a swarmer would pick up.

Either way my advice to never have a camp dispute in your life is:

• Know how many mobs you can kill before repops in the zone your exping in
• Clear that many mobs and know your repop timers
• As soon as something spawns pull and kill it

Even the most competitive camp contesting turd bags in the game will struggle to take any mobs from your camp if you're on top of them as they spawn and they will get so discouraged it won't take long for them to leave. Its extremely rare that someone would attempt to contest your mobs more than 15 mins (at an exp camp, I'm aware there are toxic camps in the game for high end loot that are highly contested 24/7).

[zelld52]

How do you establish a camp in let’s say the arena of city of mist if a bard is swarming? I’ve run into this before- stables and temple camped. Entrance clear of mobs. Bard kiting LITERALLY EVERY OTHER CAMP in zone - swarm of 50+ mobs. Group sits and waits for 20 minutes for the kite to finish and another 5-20 minutes for respawns. Yay, fun. Thanks bards