Mage epic

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Kroshk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hi Shaun,

Since you choose to ignore me while we were in the middle of a conversation I'll provide you with what I messaged you so everyone can see. Out of the last 20 Magi spawns the average time from spawn to engage was over 20 minutes. A single staff dropped out of these 20 magis. Your guild only participated in a single magi kill. Very few of these kills were by hate farmers, the majority were all guilds. If you would like to have an attempt at getting a mage staff I would highly suggest you encourage your guild to spend more time in Hate, or perhaps join another guild.

Hitting Shaun with yellow text!

[Toxigen]

i cant believe a guide actually took the time to try and reason with this guy lmao

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Kroshk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Out of the last 20 Magi spawns the average time from spawn to engage was over 20 minutes. A single staff dropped out of these 20 magi.

Is that classic?

[IXIShaunIXI]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is that classic?

nope, i got my mage on live's epic on my 2nt magi kill ... 3 more mage buddies in my guild got them back to back

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is that classic?

I could be wrong but afaik the drop rates are just guesswork and if not anchored in any hard or even soft evidence I don't see why the staff should be so rare. Same goes for manastone and a lot of other items.

[IXIShaunIXI]

but then agean this was over 20 years ago

[Nycon43]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is that classic?

1 in 20 seems nuts to me. I doubt it's classic but good luck proving it(not you I mean, just in general).

[manatoid]

Quite a bit of evidence for a 1 in 4 drop rate was posted here:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=356672

1/20 could still happen with a 25% drop rate, but sure seems like this was just marked as closed and ignored.

[Kroshk]

I'm not sure what you mean as closed and ignored, I am not a developer, I cannot see or impact the drop rates. This isn't a petition, it isn't a bug report, it's just someone complaining about a problem he believes exist.

He also told me yesterday that the plat farmers have so many mage staffs that they kill Magi and delete the extra staffs they haven't sold yet.

I'm simply sharing some data that shows that he is wrong, and I know he isn't the only player who has expressed concerns about the hate farmers so I'm happy to show that it isn't something causing problems.

The more interesting data to really look at would be the percentage of other hate minis that are killed by the hate farmers vs guilds. Guilds might mobilize to hate for Magi, but hate farmers will often help clear the other minis that are up in hate which increases the odds of more Magis. Not to mention the fact that they are increasing the supply of staffs which in turn should theoretically provide the average mage with a better chance of getting one, either because less people in your guild need one or because you can earn one slowly over time by grinding platinum.

In the end the most important thing to remember is that epic quests were a big deal back in live. They weren't meant to be completed easily, and while some are easier to complete it doesn't mean they should all be trivial. I'm impressed with every player I see who has completed any epic, it shows a huge level of dedication to their character.

In addition, remember what most of the complaints are about. People are mad that their guild is getting beat out by a single guy who is tracking and soloing the mobs. You might not be able to convince your guild to be up in hate constantly, but you could put in more effort tracking hate for your guild and try and get them up there faster for magis. You could talk to all the other disgruntled mages, I'm sure at least one of them has an enchanter, one has a wizard, a couple clerics. Form your own hate farming group, make a deal you guys will help each other get them. There are a tons of things you could be doing with the energy instead of complaining.

[manatoid]

Originally Posted by Kroshk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure what you mean as closed and ignored, I am not a developer, I cannot see or impact the drop rates. This isn't a petition, it isn't a bug report, it's just someone complaining about a problem he believes exist.

Was that thread not moved from bug reports to resolved issues?