Vulak Axe vs. Tunare Sword

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The real play is a Dawncall spear and destroying Karnors. If you have a Tunare sword you probably have one of these too. Grats on having quite a fun alt.

As the proud owner of a 60 paladin with this spear I approve of this message.

Spear: 53/46 1.15 ratio procs basically 750 unresistable dmg v undead
Tunare: 50/39 1.28 ratio procs 160dd root
Vulaxe: 51/42 1.21 ratio procs 80 lifetap

Knight melee dps can be quite good with ToV level weaponry but don’t overestimate the differences in white damage from these ratios. It exists, but I can speak from personal experience that undead mobs melt faster than butter in a microwave to the spear. The proc at 6 ticks is a sweet spot. Just long enough to to make each proc have umph and just short enough to not run into the issue of proc stacking (ie back to back or otherwise too soon to get the meat and potatoes out of each proc).

If it’s undead - the spear is gonna beat both of of the others on average.

If I had to personally pick Vulaxe vs Tunare personally?

100 times out of 100 the Vulaxe ignoring the graphic.

1000 times out of 1000 the Vulaxe factoring the graphic. I personally love the look of the thing.

[zati]

have both but I don't play anymore tho.. only 3 practical uses for tunare sword over vulak axe I can remember is:

1. Max mana on solo challenges.. Equip PD robe+Tunare sword that's like 2-3 free drain souls at the start of battle then swap to vulak/ac bp cuz its gonna be a 10 min + fight rofl

2. Keeping aggro off rangers. Their nonstop procs will eventually kill ur mana esp in Crypts seb or anywhere fast paced xp grouping when clarity isn't available. only have this prob with rangers. Root solves everything

3. Fashion, vulak axe looks like a newbie weapon

almost certain weapon AC is not shield ac it's why sks always carry an extra shield even if their main weapon is 2H to take least amount of dmg when running thru mobs, making trains / pulling esp in VP some wurms hit for 1200 dmg max hit. you basically will die in 5 hits (6kdmg) but if you have high AC and shield you get 5 "roll the dice".. imagine getting hit 5x for 600 instead in a short time frame that you might be able to escape its melee range or buy time to hit wort pots/reaper

[Dundrige]

Originally Posted by zati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

have both but I don't play anymore tho.. only 3 practical uses for tunare sword over vulak axe I can remember is:

1. Max mana on solo challenges.. Equip PD robe+Tunare sword that's like 2-3 free drain souls at the start of battle then swap to vulak/ac bp cuz its gonna be a 10 min + fight rofl

2. Keeping aggro off rangers. Their nonstop procs will eventually kill ur mana esp in Crypts seb or anywhere fast paced xp grouping when clarity isn't available. only have this prob with rangers. Root solves everything

3. Fashion, vulak axe looks like a newbie weapon

almost certain weapon AC is not shield ac it's why sks always carry an extra shield even if their main weapon is 2H to take least amount of dmg when running thru mobs, making trains / pulling esp in VP some wurms hit for 1200 dmg max hit. you basically will die in 5 hits (6kdmg) but if you have high AC and shield you get 5 "roll the dice".. imagine getting hit 5x for 600 instead in a short time frame that you might be able to escape its melee range or buy time to hit wort pots/reaper

What practical use cases does a Vulak Axe have over Tunare sword?

[zati]

Originally Posted by Dundrige [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What practical use cases does a Vulak Axe have over Tunare sword?

DPS is way higher because its delay is over 40 it receives 2H bonus dmg and the proc is unresistable 80 dmg/80 heal. In long fights 10 procs is 800 dmg 800 hp heal whereas a tunare sword is 160dmg druid root which can be resisted and partial damage iirc and if you're fighting a summoning mob that won't really help much. Not to mention it has +25 dex. Unless you are rolling with a shaman 24.7 most SK's don't have max dexterity even with focus buff

Easiest way to look at it is if you want to do grouping crawling then I'd personally go with a tunare sword but it doesn't mean the axe is any less superior...doubling for 300s+ was fun and the faster you kill stuff means you take less damage overall

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by zati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DPS is way higher because its delay is over 40 it receives 2H bonus dmg and the proc is unresistable 80 dmg/80 heal. In long fights 10 procs is 800 dmg 800 hp heal whereas a tunare sword is 160dmg druid root which can be resisted and partial damage iirc and if you're fighting a summoning mob that won't really help much. Not to mention it has +25 dex. Unless you are rolling with a shaman 24.7 most SK's don't have max dexterity even with focus buff

Easiest way to look at it is if you want to do grouping crawling then I'd personally go with a tunare sword but it doesn't mean the axe is any less superior...doubling for 300s+ was fun and the faster you kill stuff means you take less damage overall

The Vulak ratio is significantly worse and the proc does half the DD damage of the swords root (which lands even for a tick on a lot of stuff).

There are a lot of reasons why people should prefer the axe. Ratio wise though it’s way closer to the Meljeldin than the Flamberge.

[Keebz]

Everything Zati said is correct. Except...

Originally Posted by zati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3. Fashion, vulak axe looks like a newbie weapon

Palladius looks fucking rad. Tunare sword is for weebs.

Source: not a weeb. have a Palladius.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Palladius looks fucking rad. Tunare sword is for weebs.

Source: not a weeb. have a Palladius.

[Toxigen]

its not even a question vulak is better in 90%+ of scenarios

unless you can get tuna on the cheap, save for big V

[Naethyn]

Knights don't have triple attack so who cares.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Knights don't have triple attack so who cares.

I watched Sudz solo wreck Sebilis the day he got his palladius. He was happier than a pig in poo.

Said it was noticeably better than tuna.

For solo artist stuff, no question vulak. Nobody cares otherwise I guess.