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Old 07-14-2011, 03:22 PM
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One of the things that "hurts" the population is that it uses a custom login server because it uses a modified eqgame.exe. So curious users don't have the option of just clicking play from the server list and giving it a shot. But really, in the long run I think it will help the server because it gives Image much more control on monitoring hacks. Nostalgia all you want but people will get tired of MQ2 users (no offense to Secrets who I believe intends on also moving to a custom login server in the future).

It's already convoluted enough getting in to a normal emu server, so yeah I'd say any additional overhead on logging in and playing is going to be a deterrence. Not to mention that most players do not trust far enough to download and use an .exe file from the interwebs -- when Voidd released his custom patcher thing, nobody downloaded it because of distrust.

Bad idea all around, there. A custom spells file download is about as far as anyone should reach.

And I believe Secrets is working on a different type of anti-MQ.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:30 PM
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What kind of population is Kings and Bandits sporting now a days?
I heard its pretty low because of Secrets server which is closer to classic pvp.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:40 PM
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And I believe Secrets is working on a different type of anti-MQ.
I heard it's also a modified eqgame.exe using a custom login server. People use MQ all day on the emulated servers, and it's not really that much of a problem until it comes to PvP.

K&B is in for the long haul and I'm thankful for that. Good luck to VZTZ as well.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:52 PM
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What someone really needs to do - if it's doable - is make a smooth install package out of Titanium (or SoD - whatever).

So that it's newbieproof and automates all of the file modification/editing shit. The goal would be less clicks and less steps to getting in and playing + some kind of standardized setup process for any of the eqemu servers.
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:23 PM
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What someone really needs to do - if it's doable - is make a smooth install package out of Titanium (or SoD - whatever).

So that it's newbieproof and automates all of the file modification/editing shit. The goal would be less clicks and less steps to getting in and playing + some kind of standardized setup process for any of the eqemu servers.
Outside of redistributing an entire custom installation of Titanium (illegal) it would be easy enough to make a file version patcher .exe to modify all stock titanium files to what they need to be in one simple step. Something like that can modify the spell file, host file, eqgame.exe etc as needed. Typically it could also encompass changing files that have been modified to play on other emu servers as well, however it wouldn't be practical without an entire archive of old spell file versions etc. that said emu server released that might be lurking in someone's eq folder.

Again, it comes down to people trusting to run something like that, though. If a one-click-fix .exe to mod the stock titanium install to play on VZTZ L&L was something people wanted I'd gladly provide.
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:25 PM
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I regret not having limited time custom events in the last days of vztz. Always heard they were a good mix of pvp and pve. Maybe even gave devs something they liked to do.
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:49 PM
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I think Xantille had a good suggestion which was to make all levels PvP (or all in higher level zones/dungeons)

So then at least you can track down and kill people attempting to OOR train
I am tempted to make all 30+ indoors zones full PVP for this very reason. Maybe only the cramped areas.
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:53 PM
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It's been around 10-30 the last couple days, with some of that being two boxing. The population is definitely hurting, but I think it will make a comeback, slowly but surely.

One of the things that "hurts" the population is that it uses a custom login server because it uses a modified eqgame.exe. So curious users don't have the option of just clicking play from the server list and giving it a shot. But really, in the long run I think it will help the server because it gives Image much more control on monitoring hacks. Nostalgia all you want but people will get tired of MQ2 users.
Personally, I think the best option would be to put it on both loginservers like PEQ does. I don't think image trusts Rogean with his playerbase, thus, he's on another loginserver. A majority of people do trust him (p1999, ez, peq, thf, funhouse, storm haven) and a majority of people will play just due to seeing it on the list. I guarantee you'd have more people playing on K&B if it was on Rogean's list instead of their own login, not because one is better than the other, but because one is more popular and more accessed than the other.

As for the eqgame checks... that's at the worldserver level, not the loginserver level... store CRC32 and freeze people who dont have it past level x, simple solution imo.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:40 PM
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I regret not having limited time custom events in the last days of vztz. Always heard they were a good mix of pvp and pve. Maybe even gave devs something they liked to do.
Yeah, things like raid encounters were interesting additions to classic EQ. Rile was all around fun.
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