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Old 08-26-2023, 10:49 PM
wuanahto wuanahto is offline
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To me shadowbanning is more like what happened to Milton in Office Space where they fire him but never tell him, causing him to continue to come in working for free TBH
Milton not understanding =/= some sperg logging on their neighbors wifi to continue being mad. I mean really, how much work did he get to do in the basement?
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Old 08-26-2023, 11:29 PM
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I don't know. I tend take the view that no one owes me anything and I owe nothing to anyone. I have a very anti-entitlement view of the world. If I do good things for anyone, it's because I want to do it. Not because of some stupid sense of duty or something. Twitter, P1999, even Live EQ owes you nothing. Not even explanation for why you were banned. If I want something from someone, I think I need to earn it. Either through hard work or by showing deference towards the people have the stuff I want/
I agree with all that

But there’s a difference between no explanation and no notification. No explanation, at least you know you’re banned, you wouldn’t continue posting because it wouldn’t be possible and/or you would not want to be completely wasting your time

And even no notification is cool, as long as it is listed as a function of the service. Because if not, if the service could simply do whatever it wanted on a whim, then it could also post your personal info and doxx too. Or anything worse than that it could think up

And even that would be cool, as long as people know what they are getting themselves into. If a person using the service had the info beforehand that the service might just doxx or shadowban them, many more would choose not to ever use it in the first place

A customer not being told the details of the service they are using is being defrauded, essentially. A recent example would that Bankman guy not notifying customers that their crypto platform was investing their money in other things and losing it. There was no notification that the service would do that, and if there were, many people wouldn’t have used that service

That’s the jist of what I mean, put into too many words lol
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Old 08-26-2023, 11:35 PM
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Twitter is privately owned platform and so is this Server. There is no morality involved in banning. Nilbog and Rogean could "Shadowban" the whole server and their would be nothing unethical about it. They own it, they can do whatever the hell they want with it.
There's nothing immoral or unethical about psychological abuse. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-26-2023, 11:37 PM
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Similarly, I can invite some friends over to my house and torment them for fun and it's all completely well and good and they can't get mad.

God forbid they overreact and make a scene.
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Old 08-26-2023, 11:38 PM
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I agree with all that

But there’s a difference between no explanation and no notification. No explanation, at least you know you’re banned, you wouldn’t continue posting because it wouldn’t be possible and/or you would not want to be completely wasting your time

And even no notification is cool, as long as it is listed as a function of the service. Because if not, if the service could simply do whatever it wanted on a whim, then it could also post your personal info and doxx too. Or anything worse than that it could think up

And even that would be cool, as long as people know what they are getting themselves into. If a person using the service had the info beforehand that the service might just doxx or shadowban them, many more would choose not to ever use it in the first place

A customer not being told the details of the service they are using is being defrauded, essentially. A recent example would that Bankman guy not notifying customers that their crypto platform was investing their money in other things and losing it. There was no notification that the service would do that, and if there were, many people wouldn’t have used that service

That’s the jist of what I mean, put into too many words lol
If there is money Involved then yes I agree with you. Offering a service at a price and then giving customers a product that is inferior to what is advertised is not just immoral it's illegal. That is considered a crime. However, if you're not actually paying for anything, then defraudment has not actually occured.
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Old 08-26-2023, 11:44 PM
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Twitter is privately owned platform.
Since when? And when were the shadowbans?
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Old 08-26-2023, 11:46 PM
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There's nothing immoral or unethical about psychological abuse. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Mature Adults should be able to handle their own personal issues. If don't have enough maturity to handle the possibility of getting banned, rejected, or whatever, then you shouldn't be here. Equating being banned or even "Shadowbanned" to "Psychological Torture", is one of the most Entitled, whiny, emotionally weak things I've heard.
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Old 08-26-2023, 11:48 PM
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If there is money Involved then yes I agree with you. Offering a service at a price and then giving customers a product that is inferior to what is advertised is not just immoral it's illegal. That is considered a crime. However, if you're not actually paying for anything, then defraudment has not actually occured.
Ya, it’s free so def not as bad as losing money. But being defrauded (by not being informed they could be banned without notification with the service, causing them to waste their time continuing to post) out of one’s time I feel matters to me more the older I get

But either way, I never used Twatter and I never will anyway [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-26-2023, 11:48 PM
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Mature Adults should be able to handle their own personal issues. If don't have enough maturity to handle the possibility of getting banned, rejected, or whatever, then you shouldn't be here. Equating being banned or even "Shadowbanned" to "Psychological Torture", is one of the most Entitled, whiny, emotionally weak things I've heard.
It's a new word for hellbanning which pretty much everyone decided was fucked up 15-20 years ago.

Don't let the Zoomers get you, man.
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Old 08-26-2023, 11:48 PM
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Since when? And when were the shadowbans?
Since it's creation. The US government does not own twitter. It has been owned 4 different for Profit Corporations since it was created.
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