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[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by long.liam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know. I tend take the view that no one owes me anything and I owe nothing to anyone. I have a very anti-entitlement view of the world. If I do good things for anyone, it's because I want to do it. Not because of some stupid sense of duty or something. Twitter, P1999, even Live EQ owes you nothing. Not even explanation for why you were banned. If I want something from someone, I think I need to earn it. Either through hard work or by showing deference towards the people have the stuff I want/

I agree with all that

But there’s a difference between no explanation and no notification. No explanation, at least you know you’re banned, you wouldn’t continue posting because it wouldn’t be possible and/or you would not want to be completely wasting your time

And even no notification is cool, as long as it is listed as a function of the service. Because if not, if the service could simply do whatever it wanted on a whim, then it could also post your personal info and doxx too. Or anything worse than that it could think up

And even that would be cool, as long as people know what they are getting themselves into. If a person using the service had the info beforehand that the service might just doxx or shadowban them, many more would choose not to ever use it in the first place

A customer not being told the details of the service they are using is being defrauded, essentially. A recent example would that Bankman guy not notifying customers that their crypto platform was investing their money in other things and losing it. There was no notification that the service would do that, and if there were, many people wouldn’t have used that service

That’s the jist of what I mean, put into too many words lol

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by long.liam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Twitter is privately owned platform and so is this Server. There is no morality involved in banning. Nilbog and Rogean could "Shadowban" the whole server and their would be nothing unethical about it. They own it, they can do whatever the hell they want with it.

There's nothing immoral or unethical about psychological abuse. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[long.liam]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's nothing immoral or unethical about psychological abuse. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mature Adults should be able to handle their own personal issues. If don't have enough maturity to handle the possibility of getting banned, rejected, or whatever, then you shouldn't be here. Equating being banned or even "Shadowbanned" to "Psychological Torture", is one of the most Entitled, whiny, emotionally weak things I've heard.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by long.liam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mature Adults should be able to handle their own personal issues. If don't have enough maturity to handle the possibility of getting banned, rejected, or whatever, then you shouldn't be here. Equating being banned or even "Shadowbanned" to "Psychological Torture", is one of the most Entitled, whiny, emotionally weak things I've heard.

It's a new word for hellbanning which pretty much everyone decided was fucked up 15-20 years ago.

Don't let the Zoomers get you, man.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by long.liam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Twitter is privately owned platform and so is this Server. There is no morality involved in banning. Nilbog and Rogean could "Shadowban" the whole server and their would be nothing unethical about it. They own it, they can do whatever the hell they want with it.

Eh I dunno, privately owned entities do immoral things all the time. If shadowbanning is unethical in any context, I'm not sure why it magically changes. It's either unethical or it isn't.

That being said I think this forum does a relatively good job of only banning really terribly egregious things/posters, or speech that would be illegal irl.

Twitter is kind of a different story due to the whole "defacto public square" thing. If your platform has become a place where a large majority of people get their information, particularly on people running for public office, I think you have much more of an ethical duty to uphold legal free speech than a forum like this does.

[aussenseiter]

Similarly, I can invite some friends over to my house and torment them for fun and it's all completely well and good and they can't get mad.

God forbid they overreact and make a scene.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by long.liam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Twitter is privately owned platform.

Since when? And when were the shadowbans?

[long.liam]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since when? And when were the shadowbans?

Since it's creation. The US government does not own twitter. It has been owned 4 different for Profit Corporations since it was created.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by long.liam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since it's creation. The US government does not own twitter. It has been owned 4 different for Profit Corporations since it was created.

Did the shadowbans increase or decrease since it went off the public stock market?

Curious!

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since when? And when were the shadowbans?

Was happening pre-Musk taking over

People had passed it along through word of mouth trial and error after it happened to them, then I believe Musk outted them when he found it in the algorithms or somethin

Oh shit, he still kept it in though…hmm. I wouldn’t have, but whatever