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Old 08-01-2023, 03:34 PM
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Yeah and it's also really strange because there's no way the animation does as much damage as it charmed monster in the 30s and 40s. I mean the higher level monsters in unrest hit for 50 to 60? And especially when you get into the 30s and higher there's no way a summoned animation can even come close to that
Yeah level 55 pet Zumaik’s max hit is like 55ish, if I recall. I use it sometimes for farming greens

However, its swing rate is considerably faster, even unbuffed. It also doesn’t miss nearly as often, its accuracy is really good. Mob accuracy is pretty shitty at all levels

You cannot go off max hit alone as the end all be all on dps, someone would have to actually parse it. I’m sure someone has and it would be interesting to see where the mob dps truly outpaces the animation
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Old 08-01-2023, 03:45 PM
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Best way to twink a low/mid Enchanter is if it can pick up Gift of Pure Thought (c2) from a 59 or 60 ENC. The extra mana regen will really change what you are capable of.
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Old 08-02-2023, 11:55 AM
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Your both kind of speaking past each other.

Unsung is right that a 'Twinked Monk' > 'Maxed Cha ENC' in 20s and 30s.

Tox is right that an ENC will crush any version of a monk in levels 40+ all the way to 60.

If it's about being the strongest character on the field, an Enchanter might not be able to claim it early on compared to Velious Twinked Monk. But give it time. The Enchanter will shine in the long run. Give me a naked 60 ENC and I'll do things that would make a ToV Epic Monk wish he rerolled.
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Old 08-02-2023, 12:04 PM
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Your both kind of speaking past each other.

Unsung is right that a 'Twinked Monk' > 'Maxed Cha ENC' in 20s and 30s.

Tox is right that an ENC will crush any version of a monk in levels 40+ all the way to 60.

If it's about being the strongest character on the field, an Enchanter might not be able to claim it early on compared to Velious Twinked Monk. But give it time. The Enchanter will shine in the long run. Give me a naked 60 ENC and I'll do things that would make a ToV Epic Monk wish he rerolled.
I already said enc was OP in the late and end game, numerous times in fact

Tox is just looking for reasons to flex and pick a fight. It’s whatever
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Old 08-02-2023, 02:06 PM
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1-20 is really fast on enc cos you can very cheaply twink the animation.

Interestingly it has terrible accuracy but amazing damage versus yellows (and even reds at points).

This means you can use your tiny dagger hitting for like 40 damage and just cast mez on the target to reduce the targets dps to near zero. The pet won’t break mez and target won’t ooc regen due to pet mainly missing but still put out decent dps as when it does hit it hits hard.

As you are frequently casting mez you’ll often be able to finish the mob for full xp.
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Old 08-03-2023, 05:31 PM
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Manna robe is fucking useless for enchanter
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Old 08-04-2023, 05:47 AM
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Manna robe is fucking useless for enchanter
It's kinda nice for small group harder content stuff where the enchanters are going to die sometimes. Couple clicks and c2 gets rolling faster, can robe down and the cleric acts like a mana battery. Just a bit less downtime after dieing
We use one for our royals shenanigans
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Old 08-04-2023, 12:55 PM
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It's kinda nice for small group harder content stuff where the enchanters are going to die sometimes. Couple clicks and c2 gets rolling faster, can robe down and the cleric acts like a mana battery. Just a bit less downtime after dieing
We use one for our royals shenanigans
I like mine too. I don't think it would have helped me level much faster, but it's nice whenever low mana without a pet and rune.
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Old 08-04-2023, 05:55 PM
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It's kinda nice for small group harder content stuff where the enchanters are going to die sometimes. Couple clicks and c2 gets rolling faster, can robe down and the cleric acts like a mana battery. Just a bit less downtime after dieing
We use one for our royals shenanigans
Rez buff yourself with c2 and save the plat

Plus if the cleric is healing you your just wasting the clerics mana

Trust me, you'll be better off just sitting
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Old 08-04-2023, 06:42 PM
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I could definitely see the robe or manastone being useful. Get the chanter quickly back to charming and carrying the group rather than medding. That said I could find a better use for the plat to gear one of my alts.
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