Farming by leaving zone?

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can leave a zone and still claim a camp. You just have to aggro the ph within 30 seconds of spawn and you have to be in the zone when it spawns.

This is only correct if no one has contested the camp since you left. If you leave the zone and someone shows up, it's now their camp regardless of whether you got back in time for the spawn.

Obviously, player convention like has been discussed for Chardok can sometimes exist depending on the camp, but the PNP rule is that if you leave the zone the camp no longer belongs to you if someone shows up to take it.

[Naethyn]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is only correct if no one has contested the camp since you left. If you leave the zone and someone shows up, it's now their camp regardless of whether you got back in time for the spawn.

Obviously, player convention like has been discussed for Chardok can sometimes exist depending on the camp, but the PNP rule is that if you leave the zone the camp no longer belongs to you if someone shows up to take it.

I thought this was the case until a GM showed up and clarified that being in the zone is not the requirement before the mob spawns. It's simply that you engage the mob within 30 seconds of it spawning and are in the zone when it spawns. I was on the losing side of this argument when it came up and I had to give the camp back to the guy who was not in zone.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought this was the case until a GM showed up and clarified that being in the zone is not the requirement before the mob spawns. It's simply that you engage the mob within 30 seconds of it spawning and are in the zone when it spawns. I was on the losing side of this argument when it came up and I had to give the camp back to the guy who was not in zone.

That's odd. Must've been a mistaken ruling then. I've never seen that happen and I feel like anytime staff have commented on the forums it's been consistent that you can't leave the zone and keep a camp.

[Naethyn]

This is my understanding:

1. Outdoors you can only claim one single spawn point.
2. Indoors you can claim multiple spawn points within line of sight.
3. You must already be in the zone when it spawns.
4. You must engage a spawn within 30 seconds.
5. You are not required to remain in the zone if the spawn is not up.
6. Specific camps can have alternate well known rulings.
7. If a player has more than 4 mobs aggroed you may take mobs off of them. (bard kite)
8. If a mob spawned as a result of a quest or event you have 20 minutes to engage it. (cleric epic, aow)

[cd288]

It has always been ruled that if you leave the zone you lose the camp. Whatever GM gave you that ruling was wrong. I believe even rogean has said before that if you leave zone you leave the camp. The pnp on the wiki, which has been drafted based on staff rulings and feedback, confirms this as well. Some player conventions for camps may be different but again those aren’t technically enforceable if someone truly wants the camp.

[Toxigen]

Who cares nobody is going into chardok to contest enchanters at their camps because they vacated the zone for 30 seconds.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who cares nobody is going into chardok to contest enchanters at their camps because they vacated the zone for 30 seconds.

Don't think he's talking about that

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is my understanding:

1. Outdoors you can only claim one single spawn point.
2. Indoors you can claim multiple spawn points within line of sight.
3. You must already be in the zone when it spawns.
4. You must engage a spawn within 30 seconds.
5. You are not required to remain in the zone if the spawn is not up.
6. Specific camps can have alternate well known rulings.
7. If a player has more than 4 mobs aggroed you may take mobs off of them. (bard kite)
8. If a mob spawned as a result of a quest or event you have 20 minutes to engage it. (cleric epic, aow)

I was told by a GM very recently that you have to
(this is all if the matter goes to petition, and the ruling from the GMs would be as such)

a) keep the camp clear (if its a multi spawn camp) and
b) maintain a constant presence at the camp

if either of those criteria is not met, someone can set up shop at your camp, and if they can clear it, they can claim it

i was halfway done breaking into a camp during xp weekend, and someone leapfrogged and claimed the camp. GM said that they were allowed to do that, as we had not "established a clear presence" at the camp yet. then GM explained those two criteria for a "clear presence" at a camp. (indoor zone)

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was told by a GM very recently that you have to
(this is all if the matter goes to petition, and the ruling from the GMs would be as such)

a) keep the camp clear (if its a multi spawn camp) and
b) maintain a constant presence at the camp

if either of those criteria is not met, someone can set up shop at your camp, and if they can clear it, they can claim it

i was halfway done breaking into a camp during xp weekend, and someone leapfrogged and claimed the camp. GM said that they were allowed to do that, as we had not "established a clear presence" at the camp yet. then GM explained those two criteria for a "clear presence" at a camp. (indoor zone)

Yeah leapfrogging is pretty common (and shitty) tactic. Especially in Sebilis.

[Naethyn]

Getting leap frogged is allowed in the rules I posted.