Solo Barbarian Shaman Stat Allocation

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Sure. With not items on I have 1359 Mana. When I put on an item with 7 WIS, it increases to 1440. 1440 - 1359 = 81. 81 / 7 = 11.5

This is consistent with my findings in that thread. Again, the decimal is not always the same, I assume it is due to some sort of strange rounding issue. The number seems to fluctuate between 11 and 12. I have yet to see a number below 11 or above 12.

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure. With not items on I have 1359 Mana. When I put on an item with 7 WIS, it increases to 1440. 1440 - 1359 = 81. 81 / 7 = 11.5

This is consistent with my findings in that thread. Again, the decimal is not always the same, I assume it is due to some sort of strange rounding issue. The number seems to fluctuate between 11 and 12. I have yet to see a number below 11 or above 12.

Good stuff, thanks!

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure. With not items on I have 1359 Mana. When I put on an item with 7 WIS, it increases to 1440. 1440 - 1359 = 81. 81 / 7 = 11.5

This is consistent with my findings in that thread. Again, the decimal is not always the same, I assume it is due to some sort of strange rounding issue. The number seems to fluctuate between 11 and 12. I have yet to see a number below 11 or above 12.

If the wiki were to be fixed, Below 200 mana per wisdom = (82 * level) / 425. Formula works for your 60 and your level 24 mana numbers you provided in other thread.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the wiki were to be fixed, Below 200 mana per wisdom = (82 * level) / 425. Formula works for your 60 and your level 24 mana numbers you provided in other thread.

Yeah that is basically correct. I put it this way:

For Clerics and Shamans the formula for AVERAGE mana gained per WIS is:
1. 0.1883333 * WIS * LEVEL = Mana gained while under or at 200 WIS
2. (0.1883333 * WIS * LEVEL)/2 = Mana gained while over 200 WIS

82 /425 = 0.192, so it is close. I think I lowered the number a tiny bit to take into account the fluctuation. I have gotten decimals from 11.0 to 11.6. No one formula is going to be 100% accurate due to the fluctuation, but it's close enough.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Yeah I am using 11.3 I believe instead of 11.5 because that is the midground between 11.0 and 11.6. Also, when you increase your WIS by 100, it is usually around 11.3, so that is probably closer to the real number.

So to put it in your terms:

((80 * LEVEL) / 425) * WIS

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I updated the Wiki, so it should be more accurate now.

[Danth]

To answer an earlier question, it is well-known that wisdom past 200 returns far too much mana. It should be more like 1 mana per point past 200. If that were ever altered on P99 to more closely follow classic behavior it would probably weight the starting statistic balance more in favor of stamina, at least for long-term players. That may or may not ever happen--obviously, it hasn't in ~13 years--so all we can do is give advice for P99 as it is, rather than as it may one day become.

On a side note, the regular traditional P1999 UI that shows mana values should still be present in the patch downloads. It's there in the v55 I have, at least. It's called "default" while the translucent classic-style UI is called "velious."

Danth

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To answer an earlier question, it is well-known that wisdom past 200 returns far too much mana. It should be more like 1 mana per point past 200. If that were ever altered on P99 to more closely follow classic behavior it would probably weight the starting statistic balance more in favor of stamina, at least for long-term players. That may or may not ever happen--obviously, it hasn't in ~13 years--so all we can do is give advice for P99 as it is, rather than as it may one day become.

On a side note, the regular traditional P1999 UI that shows mana values should still be present in the patch downloads. It's there in the v55 I have, at least. It's called "default" while the translucent classic-style UI is called "velious."

Danth

Yeah I think Green can't use default, but blue can. So if you want to do mana value testing, you need to do it on Blue.

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I think Green can't use default, but blue can. So if you want to do mana value testing, you need to do it on Blue.

Oh yes, that's my issue with UI, I play on green.

[Vivitron]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I think Green can't use default, but blue can. So if you want to do mana value testing, you need to do it on Blue.

Green can use it now too, since the last patch or so.

Thanks for the correction on the mana formula and input. Changes the sta/wis hp/mana tradeoff to 94 mana per 25 hp pre soft cap, 47 mana per 25 hp over the soft cap.