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View Poll Results: What's Next for P99?
Green 2.0 : new progression server that eventually merges into Green 1.0 45 24.19%
Purple 99 : VZ/TZ server race based pvp 31 16.67%
Wipe Red99 : peak players is 30 anyways, will increase ms by 0.1 on Green and Blue 18 9.68%
Merge Green 1.0 into Blue 92 49.46%
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Old 04-19-2022, 08:36 PM
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I used to believe that Green should never merge with Blue due to the inordinate and inaccurate amount of non-classic rules in play by the staff. I understand why they made a lot of the rules, overpopulation at launch, yet none of those reasons stand the test of time any longer and should be reevaluated and rescinded.

The effect upon Blue was noticeable. Blue higher end camps opened up more and allowed for nice and casual farming. The low/mid level toons took a big hit throughout Norrath with that particular group of personnel being harder to find, thus diminishing the overall experience for everyone. (I can't tell you how many monks I see nowadays without a simple incoming message)

At this stage, I think Green should merge into Blue. The overall experience would benefit lower and middle level folks more, while providing more competition on the top tier side of the house for both raiders and farmers. Sure, things could get a little crowded but that's not necessarily a bad thing.


I'd still like to see an event where both servers could have an option to mirror their accounts to Red, minus platinum and the bank, for a temporary time period of perhaps a month or two to instantly populate that server with current toons from Green and Blue. This would be a fun enterprise and allow people to test their might against everyone else, both pvp knowledgeable and ignorant players, while providing a different perspective towards the game. Who knows, people may actually enjoy it, even if it's only temporary..
The plan was always for green to merge into blue when timeline finishes
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Old 04-19-2022, 08:16 PM
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Too many people on blue, why would you want to merge green into it?
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Old 04-19-2022, 08:20 PM
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Too many people on blue, why would you want to merge green into it?
The majority of the playerbase are not hard-core raiders. Which is the only place this comment makes sense in reference to.


Despite blue players worrying about their legacy items devaluing there's not much of a reason to not merge.

If you don't merge green will be a dead ass server and probably have the effect of less people trusting what they'd do with Green 2.0.

Either way I'll be going back to blue one way or another, though it'd be nice to have my time spent on green help out and not for naught
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Old 04-19-2022, 08:46 PM
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Too many people on blue, why would you want to merge green into it?
Blue usually has about 15-20% less population than Green. Both servers are below my completely made up "healthy population number" of 1200-1300 on any given day. The overcrowding doesn't seem to occur until 1700+ are online at the same time. Again, not a bad thing as the intrinsic value of the game increases across multiple facets.

There's benefits to merging, without a doubt. Blue players are more experienced and knowledgeable based upon time in era alone and this experience resonates. There is so much knowledge on Blue to be shared and it would be a shame to let that wither away and die as it benefits all players. Intuitive players on Green that came from Blue would be wise not to share a lot of knowledge based upon competition alone. Most Blue players won't hesitate to enlighten other players and "share the love", if you will.

What more reason is needed beyond the ability to interact with more people while forming new friendships and potential enemies, or at the least competitors? Dynamics are important and part of the magic of the game.
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Old 04-20-2022, 12:28 AM
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Both servers are below my completely made up "healthy population number" of 1200-1300 on any given day.
I'm with you on the population thing. I think it's sad when I hop on blue to make a new alt that I rarely find people to group with, which forced me over to Green so I can actually enjoy grouping and leveling through nostalgic content.

I think the server admins very much cater to the hard-core raiders, and presently these people tend to be the most vitriolic, game-killing group. Elite raiders hate other people, hell they hate the "warm bodies" in their own guilds. It's like if you aren't a jobless, socially awkward shut-in who can devote 10-14hrs a day playing every day then you aren't worthy of pixels.

The one benefit to a new server is that it spreads this autistic raiding proportion out to essentially another opportunity of raiding content, not to mention another opportunity at highly valuable legacy items that most people didn't have a chance to get when Blue first started. More raiding content, if you will, makes it slightly more possible to experience end game content without having to become a souless raider.

I mean, who ever thought Kittens would become a raiding guild? I used to be in that guild back when the vast majority of players were sub level 40, back when they were kind and fun.
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Old 04-19-2022, 08:37 PM
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Yep, the plan was always to merge, and I can't imagine a reason why P99 staff would decide to keep the two separate once they're at the terminal point on the timeline. Just doesn't make sense to have a divided community, or two servers with people "single boxing" both of them. No thanks!
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Old 04-19-2022, 08:44 PM
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I can't imagine a reason why P99 staff would decide to keep the two separate
Because they died to covid and no one told anyone
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Old 04-19-2022, 08:56 PM
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Green goes into blue, and a new green opens... id rather believe what was said then speculate.
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Old 04-20-2022, 06:25 AM
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remember GM reserve blue characters name for green players? how do they gonna solve duplicate character name if green and blue merge togather?
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Old 04-20-2022, 07:10 AM
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They already stated a new green might be a possibility, the potential for a merge is also in discussions. Setting aside people's preference if we take a pragmatic view on things, only 2 outcomes can happen.

1. Green and Blue both go on their separate ways with no fresh new server and no merge happening. The easiest and laziest solution to this issue. Let green grow as old as current blue and just keep the status quo.

2. Fresh Green 2.0 comes out.

Now if we're going by the second option, I do not believe for one second we're going to see a triple server solution (I don't count red). They initially made two servers when the neckbeard army trying to get a guise/manastone was far bigger than anticipated, but separating the decent but small community into 3 servers was never a solution. Which is why Teal got gobbled up by Green eventually.

It's bad enough trying to answer the petitions of 2 active servers, the increased workload of policing 3 simultaneously is something I believe the GMs will not do in the long run.

So between not wanting to split the population into 3 servers, and not having to deal with another set of raiders crying about welfare loot or rooted dragons, if a fresh Green 2.0 comes out, it most likely means a merge of Blue + Green 1.0. Now that the sleeper has awoken on Green, it's probably a lot easier to copy paste the characters over.

From a logistics point of view, they would open up character creation on Green 2.0 one week in advance for the residents of Green 1.0, so that they can get first access to name reserves on the fresh server. They'll do this because when Green merges with Blue, all their names will be reset on Blue to accommodate the original Blue residents. This way old Green users gets their name on new Green ahead of Blue and Blue keeps their names with the influx of old Green.
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