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Old 06-23-2011, 10:32 PM
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Seriously: If you know anything about the gaming industry you should know that all the videos you see right now gloriously under-represent the finished product.
I heard someone say exactly the same thing when I played the open beta of Final Fantasy 14 and gave a scathing review of it as unplayably bad.

Every single Squeenix fanboy was saying *exactly* what you are saying, and they were all wrong. In fact, every fanboy of every overhyped game that made mistakes and released unfinished, buggy, in a poor state, or badly botched the recipe of its game series said exactly what you are saying. And after the game comes out and it's exactly like Oblivion X-2 and the only people who think it's fantastic are Oblivion Johnny come Latelies, you'll go back to your other refrain of "you're overly picky and a pretentious moron so you just can't appreciate what a great game it was", even though you were wrong about all the substantive things you defended about it.

It's ironic that you scream 'the game isn't even out yet' and yet you are defending it based on a sheer supposition that the game that's coming out in a few months is going to be fundamentally different from what we see being mass hyped and marketed by the developers themselves on the internet. Maybe it's you who should "learn the first thing about the gaming industry", because you sure don't sound like you know what you're talking about.
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:02 AM
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I heard someone say exactly the same thing when I played the open beta of Final Fantasy 14 and gave a scathing review of it as unplayably bad.

Every single Squeenix fanboy was saying *exactly* what you are saying, and they were all wrong. In fact, every fanboy of every overhyped game that made mistakes and released unfinished, buggy, in a poor state, or badly botched the recipe of its game series said exactly what you are saying. And after the game comes out and it's exactly like Oblivion X-2 and the only people who think it's fantastic are Oblivion Johnny come Latelies, you'll go back to your other refrain of "you're overly picky and a pretentious moron so you just can't appreciate what a great game it was", even though you were wrong about all the substantive things you defended about it.

It's ironic that you scream 'the game isn't even out yet' and yet you are defending it based on a sheer supposition that the game that's coming out in a few months is going to be fundamentally different from what we see being mass hyped and marketed by the developers themselves on the internet. Maybe it's you who should "learn the first thing about the gaming industry", because you sure don't sound like you know what you're talking about.
It's Final Fantasy. It's bad because they've been fucking up since 8. Oblivion was only a half-screw up. It wasn't unplayable. Stow it.

I also never said Oblivion was great, what the hell are you talking about? I said it was great with mods. What I was defending was Skyrim, a good looking game that hasn't had enough details released to make a completely informed opinion on it, but yet everyone feels content to say it's going to suck.

Listen: stop talking.

By your own logic, you're retarded for defending the people who would bash an unreleased game which has the potential to be good.

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It's ironic that you scream 'the game isn't even out yet' and yet you are defending it based on a sheer supposition that the game that's coming out in a few months is going to be fundamentally different from what we see being mass hyped and marketed by the developers themselves on the internet. Maybe it's you who should "learn the first thing about the gaming industry", because you sure don't sound like you know what you're talking about.
Fuck yourself. No game in the history of the industry has ever been fully known to the general public until release. The only exceptions are open betas. I never said it was going to be fundamentally different either. Actually read the damn posts next time. What I DID say is that they aren't telling us about the whole game. We don't know if the massive dungeons are going to be a copy paste fest. We don't know exactly how overhyped the dialog is (or even IF it is).

Also, this quote is what I was yelling about. I made the mistake of truncating it, so let me spell it out for you:

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At least in Daggerfall/Morrowind, you could ask for directions to nearly any major landmark in a city, as well as local gossip that may or may not lead to quests or be related to anything other than fleshing out local flavour. Can't even do that in Oblivion / Skyrim.
No one has played this game. How the hell can you even ASSUME you can or can't do something in the game unless you've been explicitly told about it. Also fuck Stormhowl again, you got random quests by overhearing certain lines being spoken between NPC's in Oblivion.

This thread is a goddamn circlejerk.
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:46 AM
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goodbye civil discourse. Say hello to unwarranted, unnecessary, and unprovoked flaming on a grand scale.

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you mad bro?
etc... Etc...

history of previous game releases substantiate the arguments both me and Dusk made. If you can't handle that fact,its no reason for you to fly off the handle and throw a temper tantrum.

I look forward to Skyrim's release solely because I won't be wrong.
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:04 AM
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goodbye civil discourse. Say hello to unwarranted, unnecessary, and unprovoked flaming on a grand scale.

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you mad bro?
etc... Etc...

history of previous game releases substantiate the arguments both me and Dusk made. If you can't handle that fact,its no reason for you to fly off the handle and throw a temper tantrum.

I look forward to Skyrim's release solely because I won't be wrong.
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:23 AM
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:24 AM
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goodbye civil discourse. Say hello to unwarranted, unnecessary, and unprovoked flaming on a grand scale.

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you mad bro?
etc... Etc...

history of previous game releases substantiate the arguments both me and Dusk made. If you can't handle that fact,its no reason for you to fly off the handle and throw a temper tantrum.

I look forward to Skyrim's release solely because I won't be wrong.

I think the point that Ostros was trying to make that you're really just arguing a completely irrelevant point. Better yet, it seems like all of these long winded arguments that you are making are just there for you guys to agree with each other.

if you really enjoy elder scrolls, you'll find the good in the games and stop dwelling on whatever you consider the bad.

Chill out, it's a game.
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:27 AM
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I think the point that Ostros was trying to make that you're really just arguing a completely irrelevant point. Better yet, it seems like all of these long winded arguments that you are making are just there for you guys to agree with each other.

if you really enjoy elder scrolls, you'll find the good in the games and stop dwelling on whatever you consider the bad.

Chill out, it's a game.
Put quaintly and politely, and not full of my hate, yes. That is exactly what I was saying.

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Old 06-24-2011, 02:07 AM
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I think the point that Ostros was trying to make that you're really just arguing a completely irrelevant point. Better yet, it seems like all of these long winded arguments that you are making are just there for you guys to agree with each other.

if you really enjoy elder scrolls, you'll find the good in the games and stop dwelling on whatever you consider the bad.

Chill out, it's a game.
if that was really, truly his point (which I find rather offtopic in a thread discussing Skyrim, not what constitutes a valid point), it was not by any stretch of the imagination clear within his posts due to the volume and severity of the crap he was flinging at anyone who was the least bit passionate about a discussion on game design related to an upcoming release.

further, it amazes me that he continues to throw crap around unprovoked when I told him publicly and privately I wished to have nothing more to do with him /shrug.

uphill battles yo, too strong, too strong.
we shall see who is right very soon: history, or Ostros
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:14 AM
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:19 AM
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IT'S NOT EVEN OUT YET. Could you possibly make me hate you even more?
your wrong.

fuck i even like obliv so i would be prone to agree with you, but you're totally fucking wrong and missing the point of his post.
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