WW3

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What if a nuke was used but then the country that launched it said they thought it was a normal missile?

"Whoops, our badski!!" doesn't seem to quite cut it.

[Gustoo]

What if a nuke was used on pretend accident but then the country sent a text to leader of the other country and said they could have a free shot at the city of their choice to avoid MAD?

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What if a nuke was used on pretend accident but then the country sent a text to leader of the other country and said they could have a free shot at the city of their choice to avoid MAD?

Last one to the monkeybars is a big doodie head!

[starkind]

I think they are bluffing "somewhat" except they are right we don't want to lose any high rises. At all or even humor it.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think they are bluffing "somewhat" except they are right we don't want to lose any high rises. At all or even humor it.

Why do they hate us for our freedoms?

[starkind]

I don't think they hate us. Some of them where going to colleges or moving here long term. Or try to buy businesses here.. there was a Russian run concrete works near me for awhile! Idk it's status now.. Tho they've been kinda screwed more and more lately.

Really as crazy as this sounds the best thing may have been to do a 180 on all the sanctions and Russia phobia. And just chill and hire some Ruskies to build some damns or chernobyl 2.0s. Possibly. Humor that just a moment and wonder if our cultural memes could infect them deeply enough to bring them into globalism without using any force. Their money in a London market.

Putin probably hates us considering history tho. And his life experiences. If he's got any zen left maybe he's just like really tired and frustrated with us.

I think Syria actually upset him tho.

[Gustoo]

No there was threats of ww3 due to North Korean saber rattling meanwhile China expanded power in the pacific. Good job.

Not sure if this is a real convo. Both parties are a joke and any American progress ever made is for sale to the highest bidder. I know a guy that knows a guy lmk what you want and if you got the cash we can make it happen.

Heh heh

Seriously trump was objectively a piece of shit and Biden was known useless not allowed to make a single appearance for 7 straight years under Obama. We can all agree on this topic, these guys suck hard.

[Topgunben]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No there was threats of ww3 due to North Korean saber rattling meanwhile China expanded power in the pacific. Good job.

Not sure if this is a real convo. Both parties are a joke and any American progress ever made is for sale to the highest bidder. I know a guy that knows a guy lmk what you want and if you got the cash we can make it happen.

Heh heh

Seriously trump was objectively a piece of shit and Biden was known useless not allowed to make a single appearance for 7 straight years under Obama. We can all agree on this topic, these guys suck hard.

Bowl cut JR backed down and Putin was afraid of making a move under Trump.

Even with all his flaws, Trump would have been so much better for our current situation.

[starkind]

So like Donbas, Luhansk and Odessia (speeling is bad or russian) is kinda 1/3rd of Ukraine or 1/3 the size of Texas. If the Russians only moved into those two or three regions tho without going after all of Ukraine that would have been a really bad strategic move and would make it easier for insurgents to keep coming into those areas from the west and destabilizing those regions and border there.

If you think about it, probably even prior to 2014, like even 2012 or 10 even those areas where economic deadzones because of the unique history and demographic situation that Jibartik illustrated prior. Especially with a cool professor video if you dig that out you'll really see what I'm talking about.

Now, "NATO" really wanted to solve this problem, and Russia forever had pretty much been nononono let Russia do it for u. This region is really important to russia cuz half these guys are practically russia. So. There is a legitimate casus bellius or however riewa says that word.

I remember the state of the Balkan states from my national geographics in the 80s and 90s. It has been really interesting. I feel like the media is inflating Russian "cruelty" on this one too. They could have gone in a lot harder initially. They did give civvies a lot of time to evac. And and they are taking heavier casualties themselves over that instead of just going in and doing the Iraq Kuwait highway of death thing the U.S. did.

This could have probably worked itself out in the long run in a sort of mutually beneficial way without a war and occupation. Who knows tho. Covid ate everyones brains and I'm pretty sure Putin is just 1 speed only. He is pretty old and KGB trained. So the bandaid came off. Who knows maybe he's thinking "holy shit this is actually working sort of." And he was totally ready to lose every asset engaged there. So it's like a bonus we've all made it this far.

I know Ukraine doesn't want to be occupied or Russia, and it should have stayed super Ukrainian with Ukrainian spellings and stuff. This IS what happened tho. And it could have been Hella worse right off the bat.

Anyone know how the Ukrainian defense is fairing? Any speculation on if they have a chance? Can do more damage? Retaliate? Their staying power? I'm sorta cheering for them. Not if it's going to drag on for 50 years tho and be forever hella miserable. Ideally they sorta pretty much win and sort it out with a more diplomatically receptive Russia that chills out some. Tho. I really honestly don't think that's is in the cards.

I saw three outcomes I thought I would tweak a bit more in favor of Ukraine some. Where russia gets most of all of Ukraine, half of Ukraine, or just the regions they cases belli over and a strip of coast between odessia and donbas and crimea.

[Lemonhead]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So like Donbas, Luhansk and Odessia (speeling is bad or russian) is kinda 1/3rd of Ukraine or 1/3 the size of Texas. If the Russians only moved into those two or three regions tho without going after all of Ukraine that would have been a really bad strategic move and would make it easier for insurgents to keep coming into those areas from the west and destabilizing those regions and border there.

If you think about it, probably even prior to 2014, like even 2012 or 10 even those areas where economic deadzones because of the unique history and demographic situation that Jibartik illustrated prior. Especially with a cool professor video if you dig that out you'll really see what I'm talking about.

Now, "NATO" really wanted to solve this problem, and Russia forever had pretty much been nononono let Russia do it for u. This region is really important to russia cuz half these guys are practically russia. So. There is a legitimate casus bellius or however riewa says that word.

I remember the state of the Balkan states from my national geographics in the 80s and 90s. It has been really interesting. I feel like the media is inflating Russian "cruelty" on this one too. They could have gone in a lot harder initially. They did give civvies a lot of time to evac. And and they are taking heavier casualties themselves over that instead of just going in and doing the Iraq Kuwait highway of death thing the U.S. did.

This could have probably worked itself out in the long run in a sort of mutually beneficial way without a war and occupation. Who knows tho. Covid ate everyones brains and I'm pretty sure Putin is just 1 speed only. He is pretty old and KGB trained. So the bandaid came off. Who knows maybe he's thinking "holy shit this is actually working sort of." And he was totally ready to lose every asset engaged there. So it's like a bonus we've all made it this far.

I know Ukraine doesn't want to be occupied or Russia, and it should have stayed super Ukrainian with Ukrainian spellings and stuff. This IS what happened tho. And it could have been Hella worse right off the bat.

Anyone know how the Ukrainian defense is fairing? Any speculation on if they have a chance? Can do more damage? Retaliate? Their staying power? I'm sorta cheering for them. Not if it's going to drag on for 50 years tho and be forever hella miserable. Ideally they sorta pretty much win and sort it out with a more diplomatically receptive Russia that chills out some. Tho. I really honestly don't think that's is in the cards.

I saw three outcomes I thought I would tweak a bit more in favor of Ukraine some. Where russia gets most of all of Ukraine, half of Ukraine, or just the regions they cases belli over and a strip of coast between odessia and donbas and crimea.

Yah, this is certainly deeper than we understand here, in the far west. I really anticipate a fall back and probably insurgency. But I have no idea. Kiev is way too close to russia for holding of the capital. I mean, they secured chernobyl. That's a skip to kiev. So, idk how russian kiev is. But insurgencies work. Very well. I mean, you can literally beat the greatest military (economically) ever. As almost nothing compared. So maybe Ukraine has the will. It really is up to the will.