In case you had any doubt about the Democrat agenda

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no good argument for not having transparency in lesson plans for parents

Personally I believe this actually is the norm, but if it isn’t, it should be. Parents should be allowed to know what their child is being taught, but not just for the obvious reasons. It is a parent’s job to instill a sense of time management and prioritizing in their child. Children for the most part always want to take the path of least resistance. So when it comes to academics, this means many children will try to pull the wool over their parent’s eyes on how they are doing in school if they can get away with it

My biggest gripe from parents is that they didn’t find out how badly their child was failing everything until they were like 3 weeks into failing. Parents who weren’t provided info on the kid’s lesson had no way of verifying what the kid was telling them. A parent should stay on top of their kid’s lesson, as a form of accountability to teach responsibility

If bad things aren’t being taught, there should be nothing to hide. Transparency always

[Jibartik]

LONG LIVE GILEAD!!!

[Ooloo]

Transparency between teachers and parents in a public k-12 school isn't a matter of personal privacy for the teachers Reiwa, if that's what you're implying. Not to mention parents who can't afford private school or to home school shouldn't be forced to accept whatever public school cirriculum happens to be, when they are still the legal guardians of their children (ie the kids are minors).

When kids turn 18, they are free to go to any private or public school they like that teaches any manner of terrible destructive ideas, because they're adults.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Transparency between teachers and parents in a public k-12 school isn't a matter of personal privacy for the teachers Reiwa

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[Gravydoo II]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no good argument for not having transparency in lesson plans for parents

Personally I believe this actually is the norm, but if it isn’t, it should be. Parents should be allowed to know what their child is being taught, but not just for the obvious reasons. It is a parent’s job to instill a sense of time management and prioritizing in their child. Children for the most part always want to take the path of least resistance. So when it comes to academics, this means many children will try to pull the wool over their parent’s eyes on how they are doing in school if they can get away with it

My biggest gripe from parents is that they didn’t find out how badly their child was failing everything until they were like 3 weeks into failing. Parents who weren’t provided info on the kid’s lesson had no way of verifying what the kid was telling them. A parent should stay on top of their kid’s lesson, as a form of accountability to teach responsibility

If bad things aren’t being taught, there should be nothing to hide. Transparency always

Parents dont get to micromanage what everyone else' kid is taught. Why dont we leave this up to the expert who actually get paid to study these sorts of things. If they want that we have this thing called home schooling and I know you know this. We cant have 20,000 parents telling the school 20,000 different things about what is and is not acceptable, according to their own feelings.

Could you imagine parents going into the classroom while their kid is sitting there trying to learn, timmys dad said hes not allowed to learn about evolution even if timmys favorite movie is jurassic park and he collects fossils. Sorry timmy, youve been denied your education cause your mom and dad dont believe in it.

You want that...? Parents already have opt out sheets for anything questionable, like sex education, the movie "Roots", Schindler's List, all those historical films we all saw and had to get a permission slip signed to do so.

The only issue here is they dont control it 100% like they want to control everything else.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Parents dont get to micromanage what everyone else' kid is taught. Why dont we leave this up to the expert who actually get paid to study these sorts of things. If they want that we have this thing called home schooling and I know you know this. We cant have 20,000 parents telling the school 20,000 different things about what is and is not acceptable, according to their own feelings.

Could you imagine parents going into the classroom while their kid is sitting there trying to learn, timmys dad said hes not allowed to learn about evolution even if timmys favorite movie is jurassic park and he collects fossils. Sorry timmy, youve been denied your education cause your mom and dad dont believe in it.

You want that...? Parents already have opt out sheets for anything questionable, like sex education, the movie "Roots", Schindler's List, all those historical films we all saw and had to get a permission slip signed to do so.

The only issue here is they dont control it 100% like they want to control everything else.

You’re assuming that just because a parent had access to a lesson plan that they are going to dispute it

If we are coming from the assumption that all these teachers are normal, professional, and teaching appropriate materials, then you should also come from the assumption that parents are normal professional (different field), and ok with teachers teaching appropriate materials. You don’t get to claim a giant portion of the population is normal and another is batshit crazy because it suits your argument

Edit: does a teacher who is a parent kind of scramble the argument? On one hand they are normal and wise because they are a teacher, on the other hand they are controlling and crazy because they are a parent?

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don’t get to claim a giant portion of the population is normal and another is batshit crazy because it suits your argument

The right went full schizo reasoning since their middle east adventurism wars failed horribly.

We're living in the aftermath to this day.

[Ooloo]

No gravy the issue is that parents in some places are being forced to go to PTA meetings and, through tears, reprimand the school board because their young son came home from school and asked if it's bad to be white. This happened. no it's not happening everywhere obviously, but the frequency is increasing, not decreasing.

Siding with these unaccountable school board beaurocrats over concerned parents is like peak establishment-friendly, centralized-control friendly modern leftism.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The right went full schizo reasoning since their middle east adventurism wars failed horribly.

We're living in the aftermath of to this day.

No it’s a complete exaggeration, on both sides. Here’s what really happened:

Lesson plans were made more transparent because they had to be for online school during covid. Parents started noticing in a few isolated incidents teachers teaching some stuff they found highly questionable. A few isolated incidents

Then teachers brought these concerns to parent teacher meetings or the school board, which is the appropriate place to bring them. In a few isolated incidents, these meetings got out of control and people got arrested. The vast majority of the meetings went completely fine, and ended with probably something similar to what Gravy said “This is our lesson, if you don’t want it for your child there is homeschooling”

Both sides are trying to exaggerate the frequency of problems like it’s all over the country. I go into schools and talk to parents all the time about their gender confused children, do you know how many have identified something in schools they didn’t like to me, just as a way of venting? Zero