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12-05-2021, 05:16 PM
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I conditionally believed that voder ID laws were voter supression until the party flip now I do see both sides of the argument.
Like those busses of elderly folks who didn't have ID's that looked so happy going out and casting their votes. That's important to maintain. But there is a very valid argument that the vast majority of "it's racist" claims are nuanced and that saying black people cant get or dont have ID's is pretty racist too. Who doesn't have ID's? Specifically? If you lined them up, would you agree that maybe they should be getting more help than just you saying they should vote? Are they even voting? Is it a false argument? Should we help these people get ID's instead of letting them be a statistic without them? Think about those elderly being driven to vote, someone had to go out of their way to round them up and get them out to vote, how is that person taking an extra step to get them ID's any more of a barrier than renting a truck? I just dont think that I conditionally believe either side anymore, and that both have valid points. It's just not unreasonable to think voter ID is totally cool and normal idea. There definitely is a way to make all parties happy with this one. | ||
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12-05-2021, 05:20 PM
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12-05-2021, 05:21 PM
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I got an ID when I was 14, so I could get my learner's permit to drive. In new york state.
And it's not even as bad as going to the dmv, you can get a state ID over the phone or internet in many states for FREE that just simply contains your legal name and address, so you can be cross-checked and verified as a real person. It doesn't have to specifically be a "driver's license". Just simply a way for the state to be able to verify you are who you claim to be. You do need a SSN, I admit. Tough stuff here. | ||
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12-05-2021, 05:29 PM
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Im thinking that mail in votes removes the van rental barrier so that's pretty consistant with making voting as accessible as possible... But if we go that way whale, what would be the limit to that to ensure that people in kazickstan (as an extreme example) aren't voting in our elections?
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